TV: Jon & Kate + 8

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Jon quit work two years ago so Kate could go on book signing tours and speaking engagements.
 
I watched part of the show - I just felt like shaking them and saying WAKE UP!! You have 8 beautiful children who need their Mother AND Father - you loved each other enough to get married and have these kids, PLUS a renewal of your MARRIAGE VOWS last year - MAKE IT RIGHT!!!

It is just so sad - I do hope they are in some kind of counseling and that they realize they need to pull themselves back together. The marriage CAN be repaired - it will just take a lot of work, for the rest of their lives. But, they will see that it will be worth it in the end, for themselves and for their children.
 
I am so distressed over the recent events taking place in their family. I am, and would suggest that we all, pray for them. For such a beautiful family to dissolve is purely the work of Satan. He pushed and tested and they appear to have failed…but with the Grace of God and prayers of many, perhaps thier family can yet be saved.
 
I think we should kill the thread.

I started it when this family was sharing the joy and unique challenges of raising tiny kids at once. But the public buzz has degenerated into massip public gossip about their marriage.

Whatever the truth of the matter here, I no longer think it’s my business. May God bless them and have mercy on us all.
 
masondoggy said:
I’ve thought about e-mailing them, but I don’t quite know if it’s appropriate to “poke my nose in somebody’s business”, ya know?
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Normally I would say that it’s none of our business but they made it our business by
putting their story and family on television for the past five years.
If it’s possible to help keep them together and you know something that might help please
don’t withhold the information. The worst thing that can happen is that you’re ignored.

They don’t seem to have any “wise” people to help them. Her parents are not on the scene
and his father is gone and his mom is remarried.

I can guarantee that the producers are very pleased at this controversy, the program
got the highest ratings ever on Monday. In my heart, I cannot believe that the producers
want them to be a happy, boring family when the temptation is just hanging out there.

Some folks say the whole thing is a publicity stunt. I don’t believe that, it would be better if
it were. As I see it a family is seriously at risk and the only folks around them are ones
that will profit from their heartache.
 
manualman said:
I think we should kill the thread.

I started it when this family was sharing the joy and unique challenges of raising tiny kids at once. But the public buzz has degenerated into massip public gossip about their marriage.

Whatever the truth of the matter here, I no longer think it’s my business. May God bless them and have mercy on us all.
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Or maybe you started it because someone on here can actually help that family and
you had to set it up for them.
Since another poster says that she understands what’s going on and that there is help
out there for the family I think that to say “it’s none of my business” is a little like the
people who allowed Kitty Genovese to be killed.

BTW, you are not responsible for the fact that this family is a big topic in America just because you’re a fan. The Gosselins themselves are comfortable with having cameras
record these events and people talking about it, otherwise they wouldn’t be on the show.
 
Tonight I have to ask forgiveness for the way I feel about the television producers of that
show, because I feel that they are happy at the conflict because of the ratings and that
really gets my goat!
 
I tried to post a link about Retrovaille on the J and K blog and it said “awaiting approval” for the post to be posted on the blog. Wonder if it will ever show up on there, still waiting. I also tried going to their personal website, but it’s not working which probably means it’s on overload w/ emails coming in, or maybe they disabled the site. 🤷
 
mamacita said:
I tried to post a link about Retrovaille on the J and K blog and it said “awaiting approval” for the post to be posted on the blog. Wonder if it will ever show up on there, still waiting. I also tried going to their personal website, but it’s not working which probably means it’s on overload w/ emails coming in, or maybe they disabled the site. 🤷
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I think that Kate herself supervises that site and I think that you have done a wonderful
thing and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
I’m not sure what Retrovaille is, I am single, but if it’s an approved method for helping
couples work thru their issues, and I’m sure that it is, then it just can’t hurt. Thank you,
we’ll wait and see what happens and if things work out well I’ll always think that you had
something to do with it.
These are real people, a real family and real children who are seriously at risk.
You did the only thing that an outsider can do but you may have changed their lives.
 
I love this show. At least the past seasons of this show. This current season I am not supportive of… I think the minute things went south they should have called it all off, maybe giving a statement to effect of “it’s time to get back to family”.

I think if you watch the last episode of last season and hear their interview, just before they signed the walls of the set, you really can see Jon struggling. It was my impression at the time that he just wanted out and he was screaming for an end… and I honestly think that Kate just didn’t hear him. Before that, I was sensing something about them that had changed… perhaps nothing happened yet but if you see the show through the seasons you can see the progression of how the parents change. They go from being relatively neutral about their own appearance and very proud of their Christianity… then over time Kate gets a tummy tuck, Jon gets his hair transplant, they both get their teeth whitened, and at some point you suddenly notice that Kate (who is ordinarily white as rice and gets burned up to look like a lobster if touched by the sun ) has a relatively dark tan and you gradually notice that their Christianity fades… the Bible verses that she’d write on index cards and tape around the kitchen seem to be gone now… how often their Christianity even gets mentioned seems greatly reduced if its even there at all. The show went from being a part of their lives to being their life… and maybe I’m wrong but they seem to have left God at their old house.

I loved seeing this family… I didn’t always like how Kate came across (the negativity and how she treated Jon) but I could appreciate how difficult things could get. I’ve always seen the little ones as… simply too cute. I liked Jon because he was laid back and would let the kids be kids. Though I’ve never agreed with the idea of putting the kids out there and being a reality show, for the past year I always had it on. I started watching it when I was pregnant with my son… I liked seeing a glimpse of what I might expect when he’s a toddler. After he was born it was always on at the time of day that I would just have the TV on for noise and for something to look up at every now and then… otherwise I usually have TLC on regardless, unless I feel like watching the news or if House is on (There isn’t much on TV that I have a stomach for and often find myself giving up and putting it on EWTN when all else fails).

On a side note: I don’t know when the paparazzi started but they are some SICK people. I honestly don’t understand what the hell they think they have the scoop on when they’re photographing the family WHILE they are being filmed by TLC’s crew.
 
Angelstar said:
I love this show. At least the past seasons of this show. This current season I am not supportive of… I think the minute things went south they should have called it all off, maybe giving a statement to effect of “it’s time to get back to family”.

I think if you watch the last episode of last season and hear their interview, just before they signed the walls of the set, you really can see Jon struggling. It was my impression at the time that he just wanted out and he was screaming for an end… and I honestly think that Kate just didn’t hear him. Before that, I was sensing something about them that had changed… perhaps nothing happened yet but if you see the show through the seasons you can see the progression of how the parents change. They go from being relatively neutral about their own appearance and very proud of their Christianity… then over time Kate gets a tummy tuck, Jon gets his hair transplant, they both get their teeth whitened, and at some point you suddenly notice that Kate (who is ordinarily white as rice and gets burned up to look like a lobster if touched by the sun ) has a relatively dark tan and you gradually notice that their Christianity fades… the Bible verses that she’d write on index cards and tape around the kitchen seem to be gone now… how often their Christianity even gets mentioned seems greatly reduced if its even there at all. The show went from being a part of their lives to being their life… and maybe I’m wrong but they seem to have left God at their old house.

I loved seeing this family… I didn’t always like how Kate came across (the negativity and how she treated Jon) but I could appreciate how difficult things could get. I’ve always seen the little ones as… simply too cute. I liked Jon because he was laid back and would let the kids be kids. Though I’ve never agreed with the idea of putting the kids out there and being a reality show, for the past year I always had it on. I started watching it when I was pregnant with my son… I liked seeing a glimpse of what I might expect when he’s a toddler. After he was born it was always on at the time of day that I would just have the TV on for noise and for something to look up at every now and then… otherwise I usually have TLC on regardless, unless I feel like watching the news or if House is on (There isn’t much on TV that I have a stomach for and often find myself giving up and putting it on EWTN when all else fails).

On a side note: I don’t know when the paparazzi started but they are some SICK people. I honestly don’t understand what the hell they think they have the scoop on when they’re photographing the family WHILE they are being filmed by TLC’s crew.
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:clapping::yup: You hit the nail on the head here, Angelstar!! I couldn’t agree more w/ you about them having left their Christianity back at the old house. Very, very sad but it’s pretty evident. I have yet to hear them (in the new house) mention ‘going to church’ or anything of that nature.

I don’t want to bash them for their choices as far as the hair, tummy, and tanning. While I don’t AGREE w/ it, I must say I do think most, if not al,l of it was free. I could be wrong tho. 🤷🤷**
 
mamacita said:
**:clapping::yup: You hit the nail on the head here, Angelstar!! I couldn’t agree more w/ you about them having left their Christianity back at the old house. Very, very sad but it’s pretty evident. I have yet to hear them (in the new house) mention ‘going to church’ or anything of that nature. **

I don’t want to bash them for their choices as far as the hair, tummy, and tanning. While I don’t AGREE w/ it, I must say I do think most, if not al,l of it was free. I could be wrong tho. 🤷🤷
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Ya know…I don’t want to jump to conclusions about them because I don’t know what went on in the home…but the same thing happened to my in-laws. When I met DH, his mom was a loyal church-goer and they lived in a modest, but nice, house. After a few years they moved up into a fancy house…mil quit going to church and all hell broke loose in the marriage. They were divorced within 2 -3 years of buying that new house. There’s just something about money and status going to some people’s head that destroys them.

I hope that’s not what happened to Jon & Kate, but I’ve seen it happen first hand and it’s not pretty. It’s really sad.
 
Jon & Kate need counseling, but they need to know what marriage really is and how it preserves the fundamental well-being of the kids (and spouses, too). MarriageNewsNow had a recent post about the best arguments for traditional marriage:

tinyurl.com/laqcsj

Jon & Kate should tune in and think about what marriage really does for people and especially kids.
 
It is so sad that people let themselves get into this situation all for a little “fame and glory.” The first “reality” family was on PBS back in the early '70s. I think the family name was Loud, and they were supposedly just a typical suburban family. Before the dozen episodes were over, the parents were getting a divorce and the one son came out of the closet – which was very radical, and condemned, back then. That son ended up dead at a young age, I believe. The one quote I remember came from that sad young man --“Television ate my family.”

You would think people would learn . . . but I guess they don’t. And the rest of us watch the train wreck as if it were entertainment. Sigh. 😦
 
Taking a look at June 15th’s episodes, the episodes seem to be getting a little ridiculous (regardless of the controversies)… (you can’t select it from the calendar, but you can enter in the URL date field manually. It always shows two weeks in advance, and goes to the next date a 8pm). Anyway, the episodes are…

Emeril Lagasse (a.k.a. “BAM!”) gives them a cooking lesson (it’s actually the previous week’s episode, but they decided to start everything at 7pm).
American Chopper builds a bike (why???)

Next week’s episode (maybe tomorrow’s too, unless they haven’t decided the actual episodes yet), a local (meaning, local to my area - Baltimore) chef is going to (or did 2 months ago. 😉 ) bake a cake for Kate’s birthday. While not an official episode, there’s also the Gosselins Go Green episode on Green Planet (or is that Planet Green?).

I liked the previous format when they actually showed the family living “normally” (eating a meal, kids playings, doing things on holidays, getting ready for school). If you’ve noticed, the cameras have only been in (besides the first episode in the new house and outside), the laundry room, kitchen, living room, dinning room, 2nd small living room (?), main stairway landing/hallway, and downstairs family room. They haven’t even been in the area above the garage (I’m guessing that’s the crew’s storage area). Basically, they’re only staying on the 1st floor and basement. In season 4, and now 5, it’s almost as if the producers are trying to find things for them to do. Season 4 really did seem to start saturating the airwaves a little too much with episodes, too.
 
That show is so pointless, it’s going to mess up the kids as they grow up.
 
I noticed on last week’s episode with Emeril that Kate seemed to be praising him for character qualities explicity as an attack on Jon - pointing out qualities that she feels Jon DOESN’T have, whether or not she truly thinks those things about Emeril.

Now that she and Jon are having their interviews separately, their contempt for one another is abundantly more and more clear as they poke fun at each other, and not in good spirits. They almost seem to pit their guests against the other spouse on the last two shows - trying to get the guest to take ‘their’ side and then taking extreme delight in getting the guest to make a fool of the other spouse.

Last night’s episode with the Tuttle family was pretty sad for Kate. She seemed to be acting out just for attention. Also, all the antics played out by the Tuttles was received as fun and carefree to her, but she would NEVER allow Jon the freedom to act that way. It also seemed like Jon just wanted to get on that bike and run away from it all. Anybody notice the gut? Sorry to be petty, but seems like he’s just letting go.

I think Kate flatters herself and overestimates her guests’ esteem for her. There also seems to be very little, almost next to nill on the last two episodes from the kids. Oh well, there’s the Duggars on Tuesdays to give us a dose of REALITY on t.v. and make up for mucky Mondays with the Gosselins.
 
I watched the show a few times, mostly because of the kids. They’re so sweet and
there was the factor of how they managed all the kids. Now, I keep thinking of how
those kids will be able to look back and see all the bitterness their parents are showing
to one another. (To say nothing of the rest.) THAT is what bothers me. The parents
behavior to one another is forever captured.😦
 
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