TV show with a gay couple?

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Okay, I wasn’t sure where to post this so I hope this is the right place… Please let me know if it isn’t!

There’s a show called “Say Yes to the Dress”. It’s about a bridal shop, and it’s a reality show. I watched it a lot right before I was married because I loved watching all those wedding planning and wedding dress shopping TV shows to get ideas and also just for fun 🙂 I recently “re-discovered” it and I’ve been having fun watching it again. There’s one episode about a lesbian “couple” buying their wedding dresses. That episode kinda turned me away from the show and I haven’t watched it since.
My question is, would it be considered wrong or inappropriate to continue watching this show?
 
Actually, I was thinking almost the same thing earlier today. Not about “Say Yes to the Dress,” which I’ve never seen, but in regard to music by Tschaikowsky. I enjoy his music. Supposedly he was gay.
 
on_the_hill said:
Actually, I was thinking almost the same thing earlier today. Not about “Say Yes to the Dress,” which I’ve never seen, but in regard to music by Tschaikowsky. I enjoy his music. Supposedly he was gay.
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You are joking, right?:eek:
 
on_the_hill said:
Actually, I was thinking almost the same thing earlier today. Not about “Say Yes to the Dress,” which I’ve never seen, but in regard to music by Tschaikowsky. I enjoy his music. Supposedly he was gay.
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  1. Tschaikowsky wasn’t “gay”. “Gay” is a social construct of the last 50 or so yrs.
  2. If Tschaikowsky was attracted to men, that isn’t a sin. We all have disordered desires.
  3. If Tschaikowsky was an active homosexual man, his music isn’t thereby “tainted”.
Therefore, you can (and should) listen to his music.
 
JennyAnne said:
Okay, I wasn’t sure where to post this so I hope this is the right place… Please let me know if it isn’t!

There’s a show called “Say Yes to the Dress”. It’s about a bridal shop, and it’s a reality show. I watched it a lot right before I was married because I loved watching all those wedding planning and wedding dress shopping TV shows to get ideas and also just for fun 🙂 I recently “re-discovered” it and I’ve been having fun watching it again. There’s one episode about a lesbian “couple” buying their wedding dresses. That episode kinda turned me away from the show and I haven’t watched it since.
My question is, would it be considered wrong or inappropriate to continue watching this show?
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I’d shy away from that episode (although watching it wouldn’t be a sin and I’d feel free to continue watching the other episodes.
 
And did you know Maurice Sendak - the guy who made the “Little Bear” series - is gay, too?

I think we should judge shows the same way we would judge the rules of the Church. Why do we accept the teachings of the Church and reject that which she rejects? Is it because the ones who taught them to us are good, virtuous people (or sinners)? Or is it because what the Church teaches is good, true, and beautiful? (Or something else?)
 
There’s a difference between the creator of something being homosexual, but creating things that don’t promote homosexuality and watching something that promotes homosexuality. Tchaikovsky’s music is pretty lush, but not overtly gay.

A heterosexual person can create things that are bad and a homosexual person can create things that are good.
 
JennyAnne said:
Okay, I wasn’t sure where to post this so I hope this is the right place… Please let me know if it isn’t!

There’s a show called “Say Yes to the Dress”. It’s about a bridal shop, and it’s a reality show. I watched it a lot right before I was married because I loved watching all those wedding planning and wedding dress shopping TV shows to get ideas and also just for fun 🙂 I recently “re-discovered” it and I’ve been having fun watching it again. There’s one episode about a lesbian “couple” buying their wedding dresses. That episode kinda turned me away from the show and I haven’t watched it since.
My question is, would it be considered wrong or inappropriate to continue watching this show?
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I watch this show with my sister, as she likes to see the types of dresses out there. I personally don’t care for the show, but I would not stop watching it because of a lesbian couple being presented on the show. I think that carries things to far.

Now if my sister didn’t care about the show I would stop watching it because it promotes what I feel is a ridiculous obsession about having over priced gowns to get married in. People should not be spending thousands of dollars on a dress. I think is wasteful and foolish. Marriage is not about the dress, the dinner, the glitter. It is about a life commitment. Some of these brides would be better off using the money for a down payment on a house or paying off dept.
 
Thanks guys! 😃 I think I’ll just skip past that episode but keep watching the others.

Cricket2: Yeah, I didn’t spend even close to those prices for my own wedding dress! I do agree it’s a bit extreme… but I guess the people are all rich. I don’t watch the show to see people spend thousands of dollars, I watch it for the comedy and to see the nice dresses 🙂
 
A lot of TV shows position homosexual couples within a normal framework, from cooking shows, to Bargain Hunt, to wedding reality shows. This is an attempt to normalize the illicit relationships, and specific episodes should be viewed in this light. A mature viewer can still enjoy the format and ignore the relationship.

But to suggest that every talent a homosexual has is tainted by their sexual relationships should be logically taken to the extreme to include adulterers and those living together outside of marriage. This immediately shows up the absurdity of the premise that sinners cannot create beauty.
I am really opposed to this almost fundamentalist attack on homosexuals as some deviant horrors whose actions, talents, and artistic endeavours are somehow evil.

We are all sinners living in glass houses and we must respect the talents and accomplishment of every person regardless of sexual orientation. Who are we to class them as sinners? As the Pope says “Who am I to judge?”
 
on_the_hill said:
Actually, I was thinking almost the same thing earlier today. Not about “Say Yes to the Dress,” which I’ve never seen, but in regard to music by Tschaikowsky. I enjoy his music. Supposedly he was gay.
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Did you know that most authorities agree that Michelangelo was either gay, or bisexual. So, I guess you won’t be going to the Vatican any time soon.
 
Petaro said:
A lot of TV shows position homosexual couples within a normal framework, from cooking shows, to Bargain Hunt, to wedding reality shows. This is an attempt to normalize the illicit relationships, and specific episodes should be viewed in this light. A mature viewer can still enjoy the format and ignore the relationship.

But to suggest that every talent a homosexual has is tainted by their sexual relationships should be logically taken to the extreme to include adulterers and those living together outside of marriage. This immediately shows up the absurdity of the premise that sinners cannot create beauty.
I am really opposed to this almost fundamentalist attack on homosexuals as some deviant horrors whose actions, talents, and artistic endeavours are somehow evil.

We are all sinners living in glass houses and we must respect the talents and accomplishment of every person regardless of sexual orientation. Who are we to class them as sinners? As the Pope says “Who am I to judge?”
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Well said.:clapping:
 
The show, as described, doesn’t have a homosexual person designing a dress or a homosexual cast member. It shows a woman “marrying” another woman. It promotes homosexuality itself. If people stopped watching it, they wouldn’t put it on. If they didn’t put it on, many people will stop thinking that it’s OK (since most people get their sense of right and wrong from the media).

But, if you think SSM is OK, then watch it. I’m curious how many people here think SSM is not OK, but still advocate it’s portrayal on TV.
 
John_Savage said:
The show, as described, doesn’t have a homosexual person designing a dress or a homosexual cast member. It shows a woman “marrying” another woman. It promotes homosexuality itself. If people stopped watching it, they wouldn’t put it on. If they didn’t put it on, many people will stop thinking that it’s OK (since most people get their sense of right and wrong from the media).

But, if you think SSM is OK, then watch it. I’m curious how many people here think SSM is not OK, but still advocate it’s portrayal on TV.
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I am against SSM. But that’s not what the entire show is about. I wouldn’t watch a wedding reality show centered around SSM, but I’m not going to let one episode ruin it all for me.
I don’t advocate or promote it, and I wouldn’t give any money to show. But the show is on Netflix, and I watch it in my spare time, what is so bad about that?
There are plenty of things I don’t agree with in the world, and plenty of those things are in TV shows. Does that mean I should stop watching every single TV show that has a single episode with one of those things in it?
 
You will find that as time goes on you will have a harder and harder time avoiding this type of thing. The homosexual lobby group GLAAD tracked the following stats, released last fall: tvguide.com/news/glaad-lgbt-characters-1071960.aspx

In the Network Responsibility Index, which looks back at the 2012-2013 TV season, Fox lead the way for being LGBT inclusive with 42 percent of primetime programming hours having included LGBT characters, followed by ABC with 33 percent. Fox was also lauded for including the first transgender series regular with Unique (Alex Newell) on Glee.

On cable, ABC Family topped with 50 percent, followed by FX with 40 percent. The History Channel received a failing grade with no LGBT images on any of its shows last season.
According to this study, the nationwide average of homosexual, bisexual, or transsexual people in this country is 3.5%

So if 3.5% of the population have this condition, then why in the world would it be appropriate for 42% of primetime programming (Fox) or 50% of primetime programming (ABC Family) need to have homosexual characters?

You don’t think there might be a bit of social engineering going on here, do you?

By all means, watch whatever you want to watch. But if you want to avoid this program because it had a couple of lesbians getting measured for their (blech) wedding dresses, you also better be careful to avoid a good chunk of home improvement programs, pretty much every kind of fashion program, and, by surveys, a huge percentage of all primetime programming. You aren’t going to get around it.

You can expect the percentage of charcaters and themes to increase over time until the average American believe that over 50% of the population is homosexual. (At least as of 2011, the average American man **believes **that 19.2% of the population is gay and the average American woman **believes **that 29.7% of the population is gay)
 
I run into a similar situation on some of the programs on HGTV. If the episode is about a SSM couple, I change the channel. I will return to the channel at a later time/date, but only to watch episodes that do not offend me or my faith.

DGB
 
markomalley said:
You will find that as time goes on you will have a harder and harder time avoiding this type of thing. The homosexual lobby group GLAAD tracked the following stats, released last fall: tvguide.com/news/glaad-lgbt-characters-1071960.aspx

In the Network Responsibility Index, which looks back at the 2012-2013 TV season, Fox lead the way for being LGBT inclusive with 42 percent of primetime programming hours having included LGBT characters, followed by ABC with 33 percent. Fox was also lauded for including the first transgender series regular with Unique (Alex Newell) on Glee.

On cable, ABC Family topped with 50 percent, followed by FX with 40 percent. The History Channel received a failing grade with no LGBT images on any of its shows last season.
According to this study, the nationwide average of homosexual, bisexual, or transsexual people in this country is 3.5%

So if 3.5% of the population have this condition, then why in the world would it be appropriate for 42% of primetime programming (Fox) or 50% of primetime programming (ABC Family) need to have homosexual characters?

You don’t think there might be a bit of social engineering going on here, do you?

By all means, watch whatever you want to watch. But if you want to avoid this program because it had a couple of lesbians getting measured for their (blech) wedding dresses, you also better be careful to avoid a good chunk of home improvement programs, pretty much every kind of fashion program, and, by surveys, a huge percentage of all primetime programming. You aren’t going to get around it.

You can expect the percentage of charcaters and themes to increase over time until the average American believe that over 50% of the population is homosexual. (At least as of 2011, the average American man **believes **that 19.2% of the population is gay and the average American woman **believes **that 29.7% of the population is gay)
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You betcha.
 
I actually laugh at Modern Family. The people in that show are actors, not playing themselves like on a reality show. I realize that one of the gay couple is gay in real life, the other is not.

For some reason I find this more tolerable than a reality show (which I would turn off if there is open homosexuality). 🤷
 
markomalley said:
You will find that as time goes on you will have a harder and harder time avoiding this type of thing. The homosexual lobby group GLAAD tracked the following stats, released last fall: tvguide.com/news/glaad-lgbt-characters-1071960.aspx

In the Network Responsibility Index, which looks back at the 2012-2013 TV season, Fox lead the way for being LGBT inclusive with 42 percent of primetime programming hours having included LGBT characters, followed by ABC with 33 percent. Fox was also lauded for including the first transgender series regular with Unique (Alex Newell) on Glee.

On cable, ABC Family topped with 50 percent, followed by FX with 40 percent. The History Channel received a failing grade with no LGBT images on any of its shows last season.
According to this study, the nationwide average of homosexual, bisexual, or transsexual people in this country is 3.5%

So if 3.5% of the population have this condition, then why in the world would it be appropriate for 42% of primetime programming (Fox) or 50% of primetime programming (ABC Family) need to have homosexual characters?

You don’t think there might be a bit of social engineering going on here, do you?

By all means, watch whatever you want to watch. But if you want to avoid this program because it had a couple of lesbians getting measured for their (blech) wedding dresses, you also better be careful to avoid a good chunk of home improvement programs, pretty much every kind of fashion program, and, by surveys, a huge percentage of all primetime programming. You aren’t going to get around it.

You can expect the percentage of charcaters and themes to increase over time until the average American believe that over 50% of the population is homosexual. (At least as of 2011, the average American man **believes **that 19.2% of the population is gay and the average American woman **believes **that 29.7% of the population is gay)
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I guess I don’t hang out with average people. Took an informal poll at the office (17 people) and nobody guessed over 10%.
 
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