Two Questions Re. Christian Prayer/LOTH

  • Thread starter Thread starter TimothyH
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
T

TimothyH

Guest
Please forgive me if this is in the wrong forum.

I’m using both Christian Prayer and Shorter Christian Prayer and have two questions:

Where is the Concluding Prayer on Sunday Evening I?
The evening prayer for Sunday I (Saturday evening) does not have a concluding prayer nor an antiphon after the Cantical of Mary. It says “antiphon as in the Proper of the Seasons” and “Concluding prayer, as in the Proper of the SEasons”.

Now when I turn to the appropriate Sunday entry for ordinary time, I see the antiphon for Evening I but not the concluding prayer. I do see a concluding prayer and an alternate concluding prayer for Sunday morning but not for Sunday Evening I and II. Am I to use these concluding prayer for morning during the evening liturgy as well?

Star at the bottom of the page?
I also notice a star in some places at the bottom of the page. As near as I can tell, it indicates that the verses is continued on the next page? That much is usually clear to me even without the star. I thought I also read somewhere that a pause was to be inserted there? Can someone explain the star?

-Tim-
 
The concluding prayer for Sundays, Solemnities, and any other feasts are the same throughout the day. Therefore, the closing prayer that is listed under the antiphon for Evening Prayer I and then again under the one for Morning Prayer is prayed at every hour throughout the day.

-ACEGC
 
TimothyH said:
Where is the Concluding Prayer on Sunday Evening I?
Click to expand...
As above, the concluding prayer for Sunday Evening I is the same as the rest of Sunday (for Sunday’s and often for Saints the prayer is only written under Morning Prayer, but is the concluding prayer for Evening Prayer(s) too.
TimothyH said:
Star at the bottom of the page?
I also notice a star in some places at the bottom of the page. As near as I can tell, it indicates that the verses is continued on the next page? That much is usually clear to me even without the star. I thought I also read somewhere that a pause was to be inserted there? Can someone explain the star?
Click to expand...
Could you give us an example of where you’re seeing this?

If you mean a dashed line (----), that does indicates that the strophe (essentially a verse) continues. If there is no dashed line, then that means that the next pages starts on a new verse. This is important if you are alternating between strophes (for example, 2 groups are saying the LOTH and they alternate strophes), or if you with to say the antiphon between strophes (like the responsorial psalm in Mass). If you are not in either of these cases (ie. alone and only saying the antiphon at the beginning/end), then it doesn’t really matter.
 
The Concluding Prayer is always the same at each Office on a Sunday, thus for Evening Prayer I, it is the same as at Lauds, mid-day Prayer, and Evening Prayer II. In Christian Prayer, for Ordinary Time you’ll find them beginning at page 245 for the weeks of Ordinary Time following Ephiphany (weeks 1-6), and starting on page 611 for the weeks following Pentecost (weeks 7-34). The “concluding prayer” is actually titled “Prayer” in the entry in the Proper of the Season, that’s probably what confuses you.

I haven’t seen the star in my copy. Do you have an example?

In psalmody, the usual practice is to have very little pause between each verse, but have a pause mid-way between each verse.
 
I’ve seen the star used in the big print edition of the LOTH’s. I suppose it is easier to see than the small horizontal line. And the big print is issued for those with limited visual acuity.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top