U.S. Army Silences Catholic Chaplains From Speaking out Against Obama Admin Ruling

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I don’t think The Blaze counts as a “real” newssource so I am posting this here instead of Catholic news. If this is the wrong place, moderators please move.

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Last Sunday, Catholic priests across the country read an open letter to their parishioners. It condemned the Department of Health and Human Services’ decision to force religious employers to cover the cost of contraception and abortion-inducing drugs in its employees’ health-care coverage. The letter argued that the faithful could not and must not in good conscience comply with the HHS’ “unjust law.”

However, Catholic chaplains in the U.S. Army were “forbidden” from reading this communication.

After Archbishop Timothy Broglio, who is in charge of Catholic military chaplains, sent out the note to be read at Sunday Mass, the Army’s Office of the Chief of Chaplains sent out another communication “forbidding Catholic priests to read the letter, in part because it seemed to encourage civil disobedience, and could be read as seditious against the Commander-in-Chief,” Business Insider‘s Michael Dougherty reports.
 
Not cool, but I’m sure they’ll get to read it eventually. They can look at it on the internet.
 
Military is not civilian life. While I dont like what they did I competely understand why. Its hard to explain, but its kinda like taking orders from two different masters and creating a conflict of intrest for soliders. Not appropriate at a religious service, but can be discussed at a different time.
 
I sincerely hope a Catholic Chaplin has the guts to disobey this order. Then, if he is disciplined, there will be one h**l of a broo-ha-ha that will blow up in the Army’s face!!!
I wish our Bishops would institute a manditory program of instruction in each Parish to teach our brethren to vote according to Catholic teaching. Then, watch how fast the anti-constitutional scoundrels change their tune!
 
It was only a matter of time, and it didn’t take long …

This is a sad reality of chaplaincy in the military. Military duty in general is a test of faith and morals vs. the very nature of military endeavor. I recently read an interview of a chaplain who was in the chain of command of the bomber squadron that dropped the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He was tormented over this for a lifetime.

That said, the Administration will clearly stop at nothing to squelch the voice the Catholic Church. These are the tactics of those who know not the fear of God - that is what we, as Catholics, must realize.
 
I sincerely hope a Catholic Chaplin has the guts to disobey this order. Then, if he is disciplined, there will be one h**l of a broo-ha-ha that will blow up in the Army’s face!!!
I wish our Bishops would institute a manditory program of instruction in each Parish to teach our brethren to vote according to Catholic teaching. Then, watch how fast the anti-constitutional scoundrels change their tune!
It seems that many of them did just that. The military Archdiocese is providing legal support.

There is simply no excuse for trying to inflluence what happens **during worship services **by ordained clergy. (as long as it’s not illegal like animal sacrifice)
 
This issue is exactly why I detest the military chaplaincy-

They signed up to be hamstrung, and they knew it.

This hamstringing is why the PTSD issue in the military is such a prevalent scourge. The military treats the mind and body, but leaves the soul to rot.

I tried to conduct an interview series for my blog, regarding the relationship of the Chaplaincy to the military in its involvement with mental health issues. I sent the interview questions to a psychologist at Fort XXXX after asking her on the phone if she would be interested in taking part. She agreed, I sent the questions, and heard no reply.

I planned on sending the same questions to a Catholic chaplain, as well as any other chaplain I could find. Without the perspective of a non-Chaplain involved in the process, it is too one-sided for my tastes.

Here are the unanswered questions:
  1. Please describe a little of your educational/professional background including your training in dealing with PTSD; please list any specific treatment methods or doctrine which are taught and used currently in the military mental health system. (I will scrub any references to specific locations of training/internship/etc and replace them with fictitious names with an asterisk denoting this and why, and certainly will not say which post you work on)
  1. Please describe your experience with the military and how it treats PTSD. (simple is fine, no need for technical jargon- I realize this overlaps question #1, answer each as is most sensible to you)
  1. What has been your experience with the institutional framework for treating PTSD in the military, in regards to how Mental Health involves the Chaplains?
  1. Have you heard unofficially, or unofficially, any “under the breath” sort of comments which deride the effectiveness or efficacious result of the involvement of the Chaplains in the process of diagnosing and treating PTSD?
  1. Understanding that spiritual needs are just as important as physical and mental needs: why do you think Army Chaplains have been so ineffective in addressing the issue as it falls within their purview, from the perspective of a mental health provider?
  1. Have you ever heard or experienced blatant, or tacit, bigotry against the involvement of Chaplains or religious leadership in the treatment of a Soldier, or in general, by the mental health professionals you have worked with? Being candid, what are your biases in regards to the involvement of chaplains?
  1. What has been the most noticeable failure of the military mental health system in the treatment of PTSD from your experiences working in the system?
  1. Do you feel that the military mental health community has more leeway in the treatment of a Soldier than a Chaplain? (i.e. Soldier can be forced to see mental health, but chaplains practically have to beg to see a Soldier sometimes). If so, what benefits and downsides have you seen from that?
  1. If you could do anything to change the way the Chaplains are involved in treatment, what would you change, add, or subtract?
  1. What is your number one piece of advice for Soldiers and their families once PTSD is suspected or officially diagnosed?
 
Military, chaplains are military commissioned officers just like those in other branches such as the infantry, armor, medical corps, finance corps, whatever. As such, they must give up certain freedoms to preserve the freedoms of us all.

Also, the President of the United States is the Commander In Chief of the U. S. Military. Military officers are by military law required to say nothing detrimental against the President of the United States and his policies and those of others in the Chain of Command, and certain other Federal officials. To do otherwise is an act of disobedience punishable by anything from an Article 15 to a court martial, as a violation of the U. S. Code of Military Justice (UCMJ.) The penalties can run from forfieture of pay through fines to demotions, dismissal from service under other than honorable conditions, may include time under house arrest, in jail, or in prison. It is all a matter of maintaining military discipline, of maintaining obedience throughout the chain of command, which for a military organization is absolutely positively crucial.

The chaplain must comply with the policies of his sponsoring Church, of course, but he must also comply fully with the regulations of his branch of service, the U.C.M.J., and the lawful orders of all those in his chain of command whether or not he likes it. He must also provide spiritual care with all military personnel whether or not they are of his faith. Furthermore, he can not, for reasons of conscience or any other reason for that matter, foment dissent on or off-post against anyone in the Chain of Command - which runs from his immediate superior officer all the way up to the President. If he can not comply for reasons of conscience, he must first comply with whatever orders are given; and only then may he question those orders through military legal channels.

If the Chaplain cannot do that in good conscience, his only option is to resign from military service (or if only contemplating becoming a military Chaplain, do not sign up in the first place.) To become a military chaplain or not (or to remain a chaplain) is a matter of serious discernment.

It is, in my opinion, good to become a military chaplain. Chaplains, especially Catholic chaplains, are badly needed, and worth their weight in platinum! But clergy considering becoming chaplains need to know what they are getting into, and once they are sworn in, they absolutely must abide by all the terms and conditions of military service.

I.A. Gladfelter, LTC, USA (RET)
 
LTC (Ret.),

Excellent commentary and the exact reason I feel Military Chaplains should no longer be Commissioned Officers, or even enlisted if the option were there.

They subject themselves to a system which is flawed from the get-go, and part of that is the agreement to nullify their entire reason for being a pastor or priest, by being forced to accommodate repugnant belief systems.

The enlisted believer, through this, is ultimately kept from a true pastor and must instead be subject to a man who, by consenting to this, is useless in his actual capacity.

Unfortunately, Catholics currently in boots are already paying for, as are the taxpayers, contraception and abortion. But by the grace of God I came into the Church and faith when I did- retired. Otherwise, I’d be facing time in the brig upon these realizations.

Scouts out,

SGT Jon B. Horton, USA, Ret.
 
Military, chaplains are military commissioned officers just like those in other branches such as the infantry, armor, medical corps, finance corps, whatever. As such, they must give up certain freedoms to preserve the freedoms of us all.

Also, the President of the United States is the Commander In Chief of the U. S. Military. Military officers are by military law required to say nothing detrimental against the President of the United States and his policies and those of others in the Chain of Command, and certain other Federal officials. To do otherwise is an act of disobedience punishable by anything from an Article 15 to a court martial, as a violation of the U. S. Code of Military Justice (UCMJ.) The penalties can run from forfieture of pay through fines to demotions, dismissal from service under other than honorable conditions, may include time under house arrest, in jail, or in prison. It is all a matter of maintaining military discipline, of maintaining obedience throughout the chain of command, which for a military organization is absolutely positively crucial.

The chaplain must comply with the policies of his sponsoring Church, of course, but he must also comply fully with the regulations of his branch of service, the U.C.M.J., and the lawful orders of all those in his chain of command whether or not he likes it. He must also provide spiritual care with all military personnel whether or not they are of his faith. Furthermore, he can not, for reasons of conscience or any other reason for that matter, foment dissent on or off-post against anyone in the Chain of Command - which runs from his immediate superior officer all the way up to the President. If he can not comply for reasons of conscience, he must first comply with whatever orders are given; and only then may he question those orders through military legal channels.

If the Chaplain cannot do that in good conscience, his only option is to resign from military service (or if only contemplating becoming a military Chaplain, do not sign up in the first place.) To become a military chaplain or not (or to remain a chaplain) is a matter of serious discernment.

It is, in my opinion, good to become a military chaplain. Chaplains, especially Catholic chaplains, are badly needed, and worth their weight in platinum! But clergy considering becoming chaplains need to know what they are getting into, and once they are sworn in, they absolutely must abide by all the terms and conditions of military service.

I.A. Gladfelter, LTC, USA (RET)
All true. However, as a matter of practice, the duties of a priest in the chapliancy are divided according to his two “masters”. His role as a chaplain is directed by the needs of the military; his role as a priest is directed by the Church, through his Bishop. The activities of the priest **during Mass ** (or when fulfilling strictly clerical duties such as hearing confession) should not be under the direction of anyone other than the priest’s ordinary, in this case Archbishop Broglio.

The problem with this interference is that it opens up the Mass to even more interference. What if the military decided that certain Scripture passages are inflamatory and banned them from being read at Mass? Or it decided that using only wheat hosts was unfair to soldiers and dependants with celiac disease and demanded that rice hosts be used instead? Or decided that priest-chaplains are not to observe the seal of Confession for certain sins?
 
All true. However, as a matter of practice, the duties of a priest in the chapliancy are divided according to his two “masters”. His role as a chaplain is directed by the needs of the military; his role as a priest is directed by the Church, through his Bishop. The activities of the priest **during Mass ** (or when fulfilling strictly clerical duties such as hearing confession) should not be under the direction of anyone other than the priest’s ordinary, in this case Archbishop Broglio.

The problem with this interference is that it opens up the Mass to even more interference. What if the military decided that certain Scripture passages are inflamatory and banned them from being read at Mass? Or it decided that using only wheat hosts was unfair to soldiers and dependants with celiac disease and demanded that rice hosts be used instead? Or decided that priest-chaplains are not to observe the seal of Confession for certain sins?
Excellent points when considering the history of the Chaplain corps:

How they assumed themselves officers, and the military played along:
Q: What insignia has been worn by Army chaplains, and which was the first?
A: Prior to 1880, U.S. Army chaplains did not officially wear their branch insignia nor insignia of rank or grade. During the Civil War, many chaplains considered themselves officers and wore captain’s shoulder straps on their distinctly clerical uniforms.
The first authorized insignia (13 Feb. 1880 - 5 May 1888) was the shepherd’s crook of embroidered frosted silver bullion in center of black velvet shoulder straps as stated in General Order Number 10. This would be appropriate on either the frock coat or undress uniform. In 1898, the crook was replaced with a plain Latin cross of silver on dark-blue shoulder straps. In 1914, chaplains were authorized to wear not only grade insignia, but a complete staff officer’s uniform. General John J. Pershing mandated that chaplains in Europe could only wear the cross on shoulder loops. Most chaplains disagreed, and on 19 March 1926 a board recommended that the insignia of rank be restored to the uniform of the Chaplain. A 1926 Act guaranteed that chaplains were given the rank, pay and allowances of their grades, and they were also to wear their distinctive insignia.
One must question why men who should have a spirit of service to the servants of this nation should feel so compelled to confuse the secular issue with the spiritual. This disparity creates a double-barrier to the spiritual humility of most soldiers. Whats worse is the duality of the situation that Corki touched on, wherein a priest will violate his spiritual duty in the execution of his secular duty. They’ve already been silenced on the issue of homosexuality in light of the repeal of DADT. Now this too? Where DOES it end? Priests giving communion to Satanists because they want to do bad things with it? Priests being forced to perform gay civil-unions? Where? When? How? Who?

How they became official officers, Navy set precedent:
redbook.gao.gov/10/fl0046038.php

Mess this has caused? Well, isn’t it obvious?
 
Excellent points when considering the history of the Chaplain corps:

How they assumed themselves officers, and the military played along:
I don’t know for sure, but perhaps it was driven more by the military services than the chaplains at that time. The military is by nature highly structured, and seems, arguably, to have problems dealing with people who serve among them but do not wear some form of rank
One must question why men who should have a spirit of service to the servants of this nation should feel so compelled to confuse the secular issue with the spiritual.
This is an interesting comment. This concern, of avoiding mixing the sacred with the secular, working to keep the two separate, is more generally associated with the Lutherans, coming from their doctrine of the “two kingdoms.”
This disparity creates a double-barrier to the spiritual humility of most soldiers. Whats worse is the duality of the situation that Corki touched on, wherein a priest will violate his spiritual duty in the execution of his secular duty. They’ve already been silenced on the issue of homosexuality in light of the repeal of DADT. Now this too? Where DOES it end? Priests giving communion to Satanists because they want to do bad things with it? Priests being forced to perform gay civil-unions? Where? When? How? Who?
Obviously there are limits beyond which Catholic chaplains could not serve in the military as they do at present. Precisely where those limits are, keeping things from going so far as to approach those limits, and what to do when those limits are crossed, is a matter for Bishop Broglio of the Military Ordinariate in consultation with and under the guidance of the USCCB and ultimately the Vatican. As Catholics we must trust him and his advisors. It would truly be tragic for our soldiers to have to go into battle without chaplains accompanying them.

Irl Gladfleter, LTC, USA (RET)
 
Sir, the patently obvious conundrum in all this is that while a chaplain is always available and present, he is almost always hamstrung in really doing his job.

What’s truly tragic in the modern chaplaincy is the fact that the physical presence of a chaplain in garrison and a combat zone, by the system in place, disallows a spiritual presence and undercuts the entire point so long as the chaplain is restrained from ministering to his flock- particularly in a Catholic setting, as per the USCCB’s directives.

In reality, this particular issue is a moot point, as the entire thing in question is already foisted on Catholic soldiers when they enlist/commission in regards to paying for/participating in a healthcare system which provides abortion/contraception. This presents an ethical dilemma for the soldier upon realization.

We give our soldiers physical ammo, but not the chaplain for we make him leave his spiritual ammo at the door of whatever building he swore his oath in.

The mixing of roles in such a setting is detrimental. It is not uncommon for a soldier to prefer a “civilian” mental health provider over a Commissioned Officer who is equally trained, even within the construct of the Army system. This is due to the automatic barrier between the two factions of the entire Army- Officer and Enlisted.

This barrier needs to be removed in the Chaplain Corps, for it should have never existed in the first place. It creates a weird shift in actual power perception and totally deracinates the chaplain from his intended role.

Even more detrimental, is most people don’t understand that merely talking with the Chaplain is not secret. I never knew how to approach purely spiritual matters with any chaplain because all I could think was, “this guy is an officer, and has no reason to keep anything I said between us”. As I was not a Catholic while in, I never had a chaplain I trusted for any advice I couldn’t read out of a chicken soup book, nor did I ever trust a chaplain to keep anything secret, as the seal of confession does not extend to those chaplains who cannot provide said confession. Catholics have no real recourse for worship except with a Catholic chaplain anyway. This ecumenical everything-goes-and-it’s-all-good model is an utter failure and needs to be extirpated before it causes more damage that it already has.
 
Due to demands on chapel times and failure to make prior coordination with their military superiors the RC chaplains could not read the letter out loud during services.

However, individual copies of the letter were handed out at the door as congregants entered.
 
Due to demands on chapel times and failure to make prior coordination with their military superiors the RC chaplains could not read the letter out loud during services.

However, individual copies of the letter were handed out at the door as congregants entered.
Materially false; the letter is changed and this was only allowed due to the Archbishop of the Military Diocese essentially seeking an indulgence of sorts to read the REDACTED letter. Serving 2 Masters much?

Update from the article:
Now, all that being said, and the legal and constitutional precedent having been set, the question is this: on what grounds did the U.S. Army have the right to forbid those chaplains from reading an open letter from the Archbishop during Sunday Mass?
Update II: The Secretary of the Army has approved the reading of the letter:
Code:
Subject: Important Letter
Importance: High
Code:
Dear Chaplain,
Code:
After speaking with the Secretary of the Army it has been agreed that this text should be read at all of the Masses next Sunday and made available to the faithful.  If you already read it last Sunday, it is not necessary to repeat the reading.
Code:
Thank you and God bless you.
Fraternally in Christ,
Most Reverend Timothy P. Broglio
Archbishop for the Military Services
However, it’s important to note that the language in “this text” has been amended from its original form. The line “We cannot — we will not — comply with this unjust law,” has been removed entirely.
 
Materially false; the letter is changed and this was only allowed due to the Archbishop of the Military Diocese essentially seeking an indulgence of sorts to read the REDACTED letter. Serving 2 Masters much?

Update from the article:
I’m not trying to start a fight with you, jonbhorton. I was mad when I first heard of this. I was told what I wrote in my above post.

If what you posted is correct then we have quite a bit to be angry about.

In my opinion the chaplains in question should have left in the correct phrasing and forced the federal government to either ignore it or try and prosecute the priests.
 
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