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When Jesus about to die, he told the other criminals beside Him that he will be with Him in the heaven right away. But The Bible says that three days later, on a Sunday, Jesus rose from the dead.

I found it a bit contradicting even though I knew that God is omnipotent and omnipresent.Anyway, what’s your opinion ?
 
dani99el said:
When Jesus about to die, he told the other criminals beside Him that he will be with Him in the heaven right away. But The Bible says that three days later, on a Sunday, Jesus rose from the dead.

I found it a bit contradicting even though I knew that God is omnipotent and omnipresent.Anyway, what’s your opinion ?
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Jesus is the God-man. He is God incarnate. He did not stop being God when He became man. As God He remained in heaven. So when He said to the good thief, I tell you today you will be with me in paradise that meant He would be with Him where He always is, heaven.
 
dani99el said:
When Jesus about to die, he told the other criminals beside Him that he will be with Him in the heaven right away. But The Bible says that three days later, on a Sunday, Jesus rose from the dead.

I found it a bit contradicting even though I knew that God is omnipotent and omnipresent.Anyway, what’s your opinion ?
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Jesus didn’t say heaven, He said Paradise, which is a different place than heaven.

Remember when Jesus rose again He said “do not touch me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father.”
 
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grandfather:
Jesus is the God-man. He is God incarnate. He did not stop being God when He became man. As God He remained in heaven. So when He said to the good thief, I tell you today you will be with me in paradise that meant He would be with Him where He always is, heaven.
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Ok, I can accept this. So this must be some trinity things which still makes me confuse up till now. Can you give me links on this subject for further reading 😃 ? thanks.
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SimonArizona:
Jesus didn’t say heaven, He said Paradise, which is a different place than heaven.
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what’s the difference ? on terms of meaning, place or what ?
 
Well if you want to get to heaven, you have to go through a little hell to get there!

(You asked for a silly answer.)
 
dani99el said:
Ok, I can accept this. So this must be some trinity things which still makes me confuse up till now. Can you give me links on this subject for further reading 😃 ? thanks.

what’s the difference ? on terms of meaning, place or what ?
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The Church knows look it up. Remember What Jesus said “I have not yet ascended to the Father.” So Jesus didn’t go to Eternal Bliss (heaven) yet. Pretty sure paradise is something else.
 
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chicago:
Well if you want to get to heaven, you have to go through a little hell to get there!
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hahahaha :p. My priest once said that everyone want to go to heaven but they don’t want to die.
 
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hahahaha :p. My priest once said that everyone want to go to heaven but they don’t want to die.
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Father Murphy walked into the saloon where several Irishmen were hoisting a few glasses. He spoke out and said, “everyone who wants to go to heaven stand up.” They all stood up, but O’Toole remained on his bar stool. The priest asked, “O’Toole, does this mean you not want to go to heaven when you die”. O’Toole answered, “Oh yes father, I would like to go there, but I thought you were planning on immediately leaving.”
 
hahahah you guys are funny 😛
anyway, back to topic.

“Noli me tangere (do not touch me), for I have not yet ascended to the Father,” (John 20:14-17).

what does this mean ? I guess this also includes in one package with trinity. please someone out there explain it to me. I accept silly answer too:D
 
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hahahah you guys are funny 😛
anyway, back to topic.

“Noli me tangere (do not touch me), for I have not yet ascended to the Father,” (John 20:14-17).

what does this mean ? I guess this also includes in one package with trinity. please someone out there explain it to me. I accept silly answer too:D
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Jesus had to deal with clingy women. And he needed “personal space.”

“I’ve died for you people, for goodness sake! What more do you want of me?”

He told the gals off, yet invited Thomas to put his hands in the wounds, ironically. Why the difference?

And then he bar-b-qued fish for the apostles! (Our God grills.)

Jesus spoke of how he must go so that the Father can send the Spirit. I think that holds something of the key concerning his rebuke. This was a transitional time. His followers were pleased to have him back with them. And they needed that few weeks for strength. But he didn’t want them to hang onto this alone as if all was now complete. There was still something more to wait upon in the fulfillment of his plan. He had to ascend to his throne and allow the Holy Spirit to come.
 
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chicago:
Jesus spoke of how he must go so that the Father can send the Spirit. I think that holds something of the key concerning his rebuke. This was a transitional time. His followers were pleased to have him back with them. And they needed that few weeks for strength. But he didn’t want them to hang onto this alone as if all was now complete. There was still something more to wait upon in the fulfillment of his plan. He had to ascend to his throne and allow the Holy Spirit to come.
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From the bold text, I assume that it was pentecost. I think these verse has the same meaning (only in different context) about pentecost.

Matthew 5:17"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."
Matthew 5:18 “For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”

what do u think ?
 
Well, the Paschal Mystery certainly includes his Ascention and our expectation of his coming in return of Glory at the end of time, with the intermediate period containing the perpetuation of his Sacrifice on earth through the Church and in the celebration of Mass; all this via the Holy Spirit.
 
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