Ukraine Proseletising

[andrewstx]

I am confused.
Is this not what Catholics do, too? Evangelize?
Are there not Catholic missionaries who have gone and still go into other countries in hopes of converting people?

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There is a difference between Proseletising and Evangelising. Catholics and Orthodox evangelise people who are not Christian.

Baptists and other fundamentalists Proseletise people who are Christian perhaps because they think they are the only Christians to exist because we don’t “get saved” and that makes us not Christians to the fundamentalists. It is also informally called “sheep stealing”.

 

[josie_L]

You’ve been given clear answers, and I’ll chip in with:

Statistics from the Catholic Mission Project:
catholicmission.org.au/projects
Also, Fr. Ernesto Cagnacci also began this new mission in Kabul.

And
There are already Catholics in each country you listed.

Pakistan: “There are over one million Catholics in Pakistan, which represents less than 1% of the total population. There are 7 ecclesiastical units in Pakistan comprising 2 archdioceses, 4 dioceses, and one Apostolic Vicariate, all Latin Rite.
The Catholic Church in Pakistan is also active in education managing leading schools…”

Iraq: "There are over 300,000 Catholics living in Iraq, just 0.95% of the total population. The Catholics of Iraq follow several different rites, but most are members of the Chaldean Catholic Church. There are 17 currently active dioceses and eparchies in Iraq."

Afghanistan: " There are very few Catholics in this overwhelmingly Muslim country — just over 200 attend mass in its only chapel — and freedom of religion has been difficult to obtain in recent times, especially under the former Taliban regime."

All quotes are from Wiki.

Glad that I could help you to Google facts. With a.little perseverance, you can get the hang of looking up answers to such challenging questions all by yourself.

Now, would you kindly stop hijacking multiple threads with the same questions and open your own?

If I’m not mistaken there used to be more than 1 000 000 Chaldean Catholics in Iraq prior to the war.

 

[Aramis]

If I’m not mistaken there used to be more than 1 000 000 Chaldean Catholics in Iraq prior to the war.

Yup. CIA said in 1990 that Catholics were a slim majority of the population, and the vast majority of the enlisted in the Army. (CIA 1990 World Factbook, as released on CD-Rom in 1991)

Is it any wonder that their army started to surrender when Saddam declared it a Jyhad?

 

[Scitor]

There is a difference between Proseletising and Evangelising. Catholics and Orthodox evangelise people who are not Christian.

Baptists and other fundamentalists Proseletise people who are Christian perhaps because they think they are the only Christians to exist because we don’t “get saved” and that makes us not Christians to the fundamentalists. It is also informally called “sheep stealing”.

Sorry, but you are once again wrong. Can you please provide support/source for your statement. My assumption is this is just your opinion based on an already negative bias of Baptists in general.

Baptist focus there mission work on reaching the unreached, i.e. those who are not Christians. I stated this in a previous post.

But of course, if a Catholic asks me about my belief I am more than happy to give him my reasons. This is not in an effort to convert him, purely to provide him an answer supported by scripture.

 

[Peter_J]

There is a difference between Proseletising and Evangelising. Catholics and Orthodox evangelise people who are not Christian.

Baptists and other fundamentalists Proseletise people who are Christian perhaps because they think they are the only Christians to exist because we don’t “get saved” and that makes us not Christians to the fundamentalists. It is also informally called “sheep stealing”.

Sorry, but you are once again wrong. Can you please provide support/source for your statement. My assumption is this is just your opinion based on an already negative bias of Baptists in general.

andrewstx may have oversimplified a bit, but it is true that Catholics don’t encourage Orthodox to become Catholic (in communion with Rome). Or, at least, we are not supposed to according to the Balamand Statement. (Not all Catholics agree with the Balamand Statement, as you may already be aware if you’ve spent much time on these forums.)

OTOH, I find it hard to imagine you, as a Baptist, saying “I don’t encourage Orthodox (resp. Catholics) to become Protestant”. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that, I’m just saying )

 

[Expatreprocedit]

Cracks me up: if the Orthodox over there are only one tenth as strong in their faith as the Orthodox I know over here, 9/10 of the missionaries will convert before (or soon after) they return to American soil.

Whenever a church is the established church there is the problem of nominalism. Almost all Orthodox in America are so because they made a choice to be so. Over there, a lot are Orthodox mainly by upbringing; as such they are sitting ducks for proselytization. Same deal with Catholics in Latin America.

 

[andrewstx]

Sorry, but you are once again wrong. Can you please provide support/source for your statement. My assumption is this is just your opinion based on an already negative bias of Baptists in general.

Baptist focus there mission work on reaching the unreached, i.e. those who are not Christians. I stated this in a previous post.

But of course, if a Catholic asks me about my belief I am more than happy to give him my reasons. This is not in an effort to convert him, purely to provide him an answer supported by scripture.

I am not a Latin Catholic, I am Eastern Orthodox. But I will take this opportunity to ask.

Do you consider the sacrament of Baptism to be at least a part of what it takes to make one a Christian and being what forgives sin? Do you consider baptism as something done after one’s sins have already have been forgiven by ‘getting saved, or accepting Jesus as your personal Savior.’

I think that is what constitutes the biggest difference between Evangelicalism and the rest of Christianity.

 

[andrewstx]

Sorry, but you are once again wrong. Can you please provide support/source for your statement. My assumption is this is just your opinion based on an already negative bias of Baptists in general.

Baptist focus there mission work on reaching the unreached, i.e. those who are not Christians. I stated this in a previous post.

But of course, if a Catholic asks me about my belief I am more than happy to give him my reasons. This is not in an effort to convert him, purely to provide him an answer supported by scripture.

Scitor, you are partially correct. I live in a town of 9,000 residents where there are 8 Baptist congregations and others with substantially the same ideas about ‘gettin’ saved’. One small Catholic parish and NO, ZERO mainline Protestants except one tiny Methodist and one tiny Presbyterian church which also tend fundamental. There are no Orthodox, Lutheran, Episcopal or other mainline churches here.

In this part of the world it is Baptists Uber Alles. The pull is so strong it was illegal to drink a beer until the law was changed for the first time in the history of this county. That is because until then the fundamentalist ruled.

During school many years ago we were subjected to daily fundamentalist ‘in Jezus name AYMIN’ prayers despite the fact that is was and is illegal. The same went on a football games. And at my high school bacalluriate exercises which you had to go to in order to graduate the preacher always has been and always be a Baptist preacher. No exceptions allowed. Here and in the nearest big town streets have been closed off at public expense to enlarge First Baptist church.

I know all about proseletising. The Baptist and ‘church of Christ’ Campbellites are always stealing each others sheep, both convinced there are no other Christians. I know this from experience since my Dad was ‘church of Christ’ and my mother Southern Baptist.

There is no diversity allowed here in anything. Religion, politics, music on the one station is all the same. People here even tend to dress and groom themselves the same. But the Baptist women do tend to have bigger hair.