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giblin
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I would like to know if the unborn babies the were artifically developed and are kept frozen until they are used for inseminating a woman, if they can be baptized so they can enter into heaven.
I believe they can and will go to heaven through baptism of desire - much as the thief on the cross was promised he would be in paradise with Jesus (he wasn’t baptised, but couldn’t be - no opportunity). An unborn child, through the mercy of God, I believe, will be baptized with the Holy Spirit and be in heaven with God.I would like to know if the unborn babies the were artifically developed and are kept frozen until they are used for inseminating a woman, if they can be baptized so they can enter into heaven.
Could these babies desire to be baptised without ever having heard the gospel?I believe they can and will go to heaven through baptism of desire - much as the thief on the cross was promised he would be in paradise with Jesus (he wasn’t baptised, but couldn’t be - no opportunity). An unborn child, through the mercy of God, I believe, will be baptized with the Holy Spirit and be in heaven with God.
This doesn’t mean we can sit back and give up the fight to protect these unborn children. That is our duty - to protect the sanctity of life.
Blessings,
Brian
Theoretically they could be baptized. But, practically-- no. First, you do not have access to these embryos. And, pouring water on them would destroy them.I would like to know if the unborn babies the were artifically developed and are kept frozen until they are used for inseminating a woman, if they can be baptized so they can enter into heaven.
I’ve heard these poor souls compared with that of the Holy Innocents. The church calls them saints as they were victims in the persecution of Jesus. These souls are victims in the war on the sanctity of life. Trust God. He has a plan.Do what you can so that fewer souls are in this situation.
As far as I know these frozen embryo’s cannot express their desire for Baptism. They can be Baptized as long as they are alive and would need to be Baptized, if we want certainity of their salvation. Otherwise we can only HOPE that there Might be a way known only to God for their salvation…I believe they can and will go to heaven through baptism of desire - much as the thief on the cross was promised he would be in paradise with Jesus (he wasn’t baptised, but couldn’t be - no opportunity). An unborn child, through the mercy of God, I believe, will be baptized with the Holy Spirit and be in heaven with God.
This doesn’t mean we can sit back and give up the fight to protect these unborn children. That is our duty - to protect the sanctity of life.
Blessings,
Brian
I believe that the theory of limbo was done away with.Could these babies desire to be baptised without ever having heard the gospel?
afterthought
I thought that limbo was where unbaptised unborn babies went…
Limbo of the infants is not, but limbo of the fathers - otherwise known as hell (not to be confused with gehenna) - is. Sorry, had to clarify.Limbo was never an official church doctrine.
You were misinformed.I believe that the theory of limbo was done away with.
It is incorrect to suggest that a parents desire for Baptism for their child provides Baptism of Desire. I realize that is not exactly what you said, but some may read it that way.Babies can be saved if their parents desire baptism and pray for them. This is one of the teachings of the Church that a few don’t remember, because it’s hard to remember and to explain.
Yes, Limbo of the infants was and still is a possible theory, but not a doctrine.Two doctrines concerning infants who die without Baptism are that :Limbo of the infants is not, but limbo of the fathers - otherwise known as hell (not to be confused with gehenna) - is. Sorry, had to clarify.
“Limbo of the fathers is known as hell” – can you please offer some references for this … I would like to read more about this.Limbo of the infants is not, but limbo of the fathers - otherwise known as hell (not to be confused with gehenna) - is. Sorry, had to clarify.
According to this, Limbo was never a part of the Sacred Deposit of the Doctrine of the Faith.Holly3278;4537226:
You were misinformed.I believe that the theory of limbo was done away with.
Well, it appears that we now have a problem on our hands. Doesn’t the church ALSO teach that at the end of time ONLY heaven and hell will exist?Yes, Limbo of the infants was and still is a possible theory, but not a doctrine.Two doctrines concerning infants who die without Baptism are that :
- They DO NOT go to the Hell of the Damned, because they do not have personal sin. (from Tradition)
- No un-Baptized person can enter the Kingdom. (from Scripture)
I think for lack of a better word anywhere not heaven is hell.I thought I read recently that the “Limbo of the Fathers” (sounds like a cheesy 70s dance album) was indeed in Hell (“He descended into Hell” - Apostle’s Creed) but not Hellish per se; sort of like a waiting room with A/C and up-to-date magazines.