Unconscionable” tax bill

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Communism comes in different types. I believe Dylan Ratigan called ours corporate communism.
 
buffalo said:
Eliminates special-interest deductions
that increase rates and complicate Americans’ taxes – so an individual or family can file their taxes on a form as simple as a postcard.
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Given the choice between paying lower taxes and filing on a postcard, most people would prefer lower taxes. So offering postcard filing in return for giving up deductions does not seem like a win.
 
Prove that taxes are being raised on those in poverty.

Also, remember we have spent trillions on the war of poverty since Johnson. It is worse now. The new slavery is economic slavery with little way of getting out. Jobs is the way out and path to self sufficiency.

You did not answer my first question. [Well, unfortunately, that will be the excuse. Now that we have given all the money to the 1%]

How?
 
buffalo said:
Lowers individual tax rates for low- and middle-income Americans…
Significantly increases the standard deduction…
Eliminates special-interest deductions…
Takes action to support American families…
Establishing a new Family Credit, which includes expanding the Child Tax Credit…
Preserving the Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit…
Reduces the tax rate on the hard-earned business income of Main Street job creators…
Lowers the corporate tax rate to 20%…
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All of these are reasonable suggestions. Whether they would be economically helpful is debatable, but that really is the point here: these questions should be discussed on their merit, and not dismissed out of hand because a particular bishop favors a different approach. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion about the effect of this or that change to the tax law, and there is no moral distinction in either supporting or opposing any of the specific proposals that have been made. There is no sin involved in making bad economic choices so long as the intent is to make good ones. That’s the way it is with practical problems: we do what we think is right and move on. That our opinions might differ from those expressed by the USCCB is irrelevant.
 
Not all whose taxes are raised are currently in poverty. You have heard that in years to come more and more of the lower incomes will be paying more and more in taxes, though, right?

I don’t know. Maybe at the last minute they put a guarantee in there that no one will pay higher taxes but I doubt it.

If this thing is passed as a tax cut for all, it will be another fraud.
 
TrBe21 said:
… if you cut food stamps and rent subsidies how many grocery store chains and landlords will be affected?
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If we cut the fraudulent claims for Earned Income Tax Credit, Child Care, WIC, etc. then how many fraudulent people will be forced back into the work force looking for jobs instead of an illegal handout?

Is not this level of fraud an immoral outcome against the poor due in large part to centralizing our welfare programs and allowing Washington DC to be the gatekeeper who never sees those who are unworthy at the gate? Where are out bishops on the issue of subsidiarity in governance that so negatively affects the poor?


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If we cut the fraudulent claims for Earned Income Tax Credit, Child Care, WIC, etc.
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What’s there to stop them from keeping receipts or other ways of proof for these claims?

We still have audits, don’t we?
 
TrBe21 said:
This is a proverbially drop in the bucket compared to waste within our defense department spending (annual budget for 2018, around 700 billion). One example, to keep our Guantanamo Bay facility open a year costs around 250 million dollars or 2.7 million dollars per inmate. Obama wanted to close it, but you know how those Republican deficit hawks are.

Besides, getting an $8 or $9 an hour job will not house and feed an individual and 2 working at that rate will not house and feed a family. “Getting a job” doesn’t necessarily alleviate the problem.
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A drop in the bucket? $71 billion?

If your argument is that because the federal government wastes money on national defense expenditures then it is OK to waste money on transfer payments then the argument is illogical. The defense of the country is a federal responsibility; care for the poor is not.

On 911, 19 hijackers murdered 3,000 people or about 158 murders per murderer. That’s about $17,000 per inmate to defend us. Depending on how one values human life, that’s a good expenditure of money. Thank you, Republicans, and others who put our defense first.

How is it that “getting a job” instead of lying – living of fraudulent claims – are morally opposed?
The minimum wage argument is a red herring.
 
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How did our defense come into play on 911?

You know. Fighter pilots took off in unarmed fighter planes having to decide the best way to ram an airliner.

Or … our radars were pointing the wrong way.

Or … our screeners allowed short bladed knives and airline pilots were not allowed to carry pistols … after all they might self-hijack their airplanes.

Bureaucrats will get you every time.
 
We COULD INCREASE the corporate income tax rate.

Would that INCREASE the amount of corporate tax collected?

OR would that increase the number of American corporations encouraged to move to Ireland or other low tax countries?

[How many foreign countries are there that have LOWER corporate income tax rates than the United States?]
 
Usually the Bishops position is agreed with when the libs agree.

On moral issues, not so much. Then it is who cares what the Bishops think.
 
Seems like the last time we lowered corporate tax rates, other countries followed. And we wound up with increasing deductions and other incentives. Will it be different this time?
 
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