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2000 Sanctifying grace is an habitual gift, a stable and supernatural disposition that perfects the soul itself to enable it to live with God, to act by his love. Habitual grace, the permanent disposition to live and act in keeping with God’s call, is distinguished from actual graces which refer to God’s interventions, whether at the beginning of conversion or in the course of the work of sanctification.
 
2009 Filial adoption, in making us partakers by grace in the divine nature, can bestow true merit on us as a result of God’s gratuitous justice. This is our right by grace, the full right of love, making us “co-heirs” with Christ and worthy of obtaining "the promised inheritance of eternal life."60 The merits of our good works are gifts of the divine goodness.61 "Grace has gone before us; now we are given what is due. . . . Our merits are God’s gifts."62
 
There are non-fiction novels Lily…

I don’t think you are understanding me
There is no such thing as a “non-fiction novel”…a novel, by definition is a work of fiction.

From Dictionary.com
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nov·el**
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noun
1.a fictitious prose narrative of considerable length and complexity, portraying characters and usually presenting a sequential organization of action and scenes.

2.(formerly) novella ( def. 1 ) .
 
There is no such thing as a “non-fiction novel”…a novel, by definition is a work of fiction.

From Dictionary.com
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nov·el**
1    [nov-uhl] Show IPA
noun
1.a fictitious prose narrative of considerable length and complexity, portraying characters and usually presenting a sequential organization of action and scenes.

2.(formerly) novella ( def. 1 ) .
fine

 
2000 Sanctifying grace is an habitual gift, a stable and supernatural disposition that perfects the soul itself to enable it to live with God, to act by his love. Habitual grace, the permanent disposition to live and act in keeping with God’s call, is distinguished from actual graces which refer to God’s interventions, whether at the beginning of conversion or in the course of the work of sanctification.
2009 Filial adoption, in making us partakers by grace in the divine nature, can bestow true merit on us as a result of God’s gratuitous justice. This is our right by grace, the full right of love, making us “co-heirs” with Christ and worthy of obtaining "the promised inheritance of eternal life."60 The merits of our good works are gifts of the divine goodness.61 "Grace has gone before us; now we are given what is due. . . . Our merits are God’s gifts."62
Ok, now we’re getting somewhere. What is it about these that you disagree with and why?
 
Would you mind answering my previous post regarding authority??

I stated:
Actually - the bottom line on this whole matter is that you do not accept that the Catholic (Universal) Church is the Church established by Christ in the NT.

You do not accept that Christ established one, unified visible and authoritative Church.

Is that an accurate statement?

Peace
James
 
There is no such thing as a “non-fiction novel”…a novel, by definition is a work of fiction.

From Dictionary.com
**
nov·el**
1    [nov-uhl] Show IPA
noun
1.a fictitious prose narrative of considerable length and complexity, portraying characters and usually presenting a sequential organization of action and scenes.

2.(formerly) novella ( def. 1 ) .
To be fair, there are works that combine fiction and non-fiction, such as historical fiction, that can rightly be called novels.

But let’s stop digressing
 
Ok, now we’re getting somewhere. What is it about these that you disagree with and why?
I guess we will look at the last one

What does "The merits of our good works are gifts of the divine goodness.61 “Grace has gone before us; now we are given what is due. . . . Our merits are God’s gifts.” mean?
 
Would you mind answering my previous post regarding authority??

I stated:
Actually - the bottom line on this whole matter is that you do not accept that the Catholic (Universal) Church is the Church established by Christ in the NT.

You do not accept that Christ established one, unified visible and authoritative Church.

Is that an accurate statement?

Peace
James
Sorry I did not notice the post before.

To answer your question, kinda.
At least I do not recognize the RCC as all of this church.
 
Sorry I did not notice the post before.

To answer your question, kinda.
At least I do not recognize the RCC as all of this church.
So Do you believe that Christ established a unified visible and authoritative Church?

Peace
James
 
So Do you believe that Christ established a unified visible and authoritative Church?

Peace
James
I thought I answered this…

I believe the church is unified in Christ (but sadly divided at the same time)
 
I guess we will look at the last one

What does "The merits of our good works are gifts of the divine goodness.61 “Grace has gone before us; now we are given what is due. . . . Our merits are God’s gifts.” mean?
Well, when I do good works certain spiritual benefits (merits) flow to me because of it. I grow in virtue and holiness for example, or lead others to Christ by example.

What the passage means is firstly that we only have the ability to do those works as a gift from God (we can do nothing good by ourselves). So it follows that the merits or spiritual benefits that flow from them are also gifts of God.

We don’t earn them by doing the good works, and cannot demand them as a reward in the same way that a hired worker who completes his assigned tasks earns and can demand his wages.

What does this passage have to do with your determination to reject Catholicism? I know some think mistakenly that the RC advocates salvation by works, but there’s not even a suggestion in that passage that it might. And, as I’ve stated, the contrary is true, as we do not earn salvation or any other spiritual good by our own works, but purely by God’s grace with both enables us to work and allows benefits to flow from it.
 
Well, when I do good works certain spiritual benefits (merits) flow to me because of it. I grow in virtue and holiness for example, or lead others to Christ by example.

What the passage means is firstly that we only have the ability to do those works as a gift from God (we can do nothing good by ourselves). So it follows that the merits or spiritual benefits that flow from them are also gifts of God.

We don’t earn them by doing the good works, and cannot demand them as a reward in the same way that a hired worker who completes his assigned tasks earns and can demand his wages.

What does this passage have to do with your determination to reject Catholicism? I know some think mistakenly that the RC advocates salvation by works, but there’s not even a suggestion in that passage that it might. And, as I’ve stated, the contrary is true, as we do not earn salvation or any other spiritual good by our own works, but purely by God’s grace with both enables us to work and allows benefits to flow from it.
So Catholics don’t believe that grace can be merited?

If this is true it is great!
 
So is the ekklesia - the church - established by Christ visible or invisible - authoritative or non-authoritative…

Peace
James
Please clarify by what you mean by visible and authoritative
 
So Catholics don’t believe that grace can be merited?

If this is true it is great!
The very definition of grace is that it is something God freely gives - that being the case it cannot possibly be merited in the sense of being earned.

Of course we can choose to co-operate more or less fully, or not at all, with that grace. Being a gift it is something we can put to good use, not so good use or not use at all. And God can perhaps give more to those who He knows will use it well (‘he who has, to him will more be given’)
 
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