Understanding Catholic newspeak

[debtera]

ByzCath,

I think we should distinguish between *active *and *actual *participation, and not make the mistake of thinking that either necessarily includes or excludes the other.

By its very nature the rite will not really allow the active participation of the whole congregation ( saying the Creed or even “Amen” is beyond young children and those with impaired speech; the sanctuary will hold just so any acolytes, eucharistic ministers, lectors, interpretive dancers …), nor is it desirable that all should participate actively (enough with the tone-deaf congregational singing!).

What is required, though, is actual participation: the application of one’s mind and heart to the liturgy, even if this means praying with words that complement rather than echo the priestly prayers of the celebrant.

 

[Theodred]

Extra-sensory phenomena are para-normal, not preternatural.

 

[Theodred]

katherine2:

well, this thread has re-confirmed my belief in progressive Catholicism. What I see here are some false stereotypes of progressive Catholics but a real confirmation of the reservations we have about those of a more conservative bent – i.e. an excessive glorification of meaningless, non-theological distinctions between Christians (allelúia/hallelujah or which sylable to put the accent on in Augustine).

Golly, Katherine… you certainly put all of us orthodox Catholics in our place! Yip, no more worrying about silly little stuff like language and translation and learning stuff (that doesn’t have to do with trashing the Church or her ministers, of course).

 

[Pug]

Pug:

Wow. I’d always figured St. AUG-us-steen, was some other guy I had no idea about. How silly of me not to have guessed

Okay, today I was thinking about the city of Canterbury (in England). Isn’t it the case that a benedictine built a cathedral there and that his name was Augustine and that he is a saint? Isn’t he the guy that is called AUG-us-steen? He’s burried there to this day, in SS Peter and Paul. He was a missionary to England and did a good job of it too. Am I wrong that this is who is meant by the different pronunciation?