Understanding Latin?

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You were using your alleged attendence at the TLM as proof of your awesome Catholicness. Turns out you don’t even know the order of the mass in any language and that scripture is always read at mass.

As I said, folks, why me is a Mormon who stays in the non-Catholic religions section most of the time proselytizing, defending other Mormons like those kids who desecrated the Shrine of the Mexican Martyrs in Colorado, and going back to his mormon apologetics forum (where he has a big avatar of Jospeh Smith) to beg his fellow Mormons to boardswarm CAF. He (or she) is very much a troll. Can’t figure out why the mods put up with him, frankly.
:crossrc: What more can I do?
 
Again with the twisting. The question posed to you on the other thread, was to take a poll in a parish, not an internet chat board. Just like on the other board you made the statement that there weren’t any “readings” in the TLM.

You’re slipping in your deception.
ibkc
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Go tell the folks up in the Traditional forum that no one can understand or follow the TLM. I’m sure they’ll be very interested to hear about that.

Say that again? You see folks, what I have to put up with? I can only :crossrc: pray for mercy. Pasted from the non-catholic section of the forum.
 
Methinks you missed my post … Please see post #20 in this thread, wherein I say:

“That said, when I attend the Latin Mass, I tend not to use a missal but rather be absorbed by the language of Love which transcends earthly tongues, as I personally find the Latin Mass very conducive to contemplative prayer.”

No condemnation here … In fact, I agreed with you.

PAX ET BONUM,

(Peace and goodness,) 🙂

~~ the phoenix
I did miss your post. Before I went to the mass one of the nuns said to me that I would be praying a lot. I had no idea what she meant. But now I do. 🙂
 
ibkc
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Go tell the folks up in the Traditional forum that no one can understand or follow the TLM. I’m sure they’ll be very interested to hear about that.
Maybe I made a “mistake” like you did with the words “persecution” and “prosecution” on the Vandalism thread.😉
 
I did miss your post. Before I went to the mass one of the nuns said to me that I would be praying a lot. I had no idea what she meant. But now I do. 🙂
Seems to happen alot doesn’t it? You have never answered the question posed asking whether you take communion at the Catholic church, and at a sacrament meeting.

Before you say they are at the same time, I’m sure you have opportunity to attend a Vigil Mass, or a Daily Mass, that wouldn’t conflict with the time of a sacrament meeting.

Just one example, I can go for more if you like.
 
Seems to happen alot doesn’t it? You have never answered the question posed asking whether you take communion at the Catholic church, and at a sacrament meeting.

Before you say they are at the same time, I’m sure you have opportunity to attend a Vigil Mass, or a Daily Mass, that wouldn’t conflict with the time of a sacrament meeting.

Just one example, I can go for more if you like.
Okay here it goes but you will have to promise me that we will not have this discussion on this thread once I reply. We will need to take it over to our favorite section of the forum.

On Sunday, I attend the morning mass because I know more people during that mass. Afterwards, there is a coffee hour with cakes etc. I sit and chat with some of the people that I know. This is at the same time as the mormon sacrament meeting.

However, when possible, I also go to adoration with the nuns at their convent on Monday nights. (This is my Family Home Evening 😉 )They have a chapel in their convent. And I often go to mass on Wednesday and Friday nights and also saturday evenings. Maybe I am crazy but such is my life. But it all depends on my schedule and location. At times I am out of town for long periods and then my schedule changes accordingly. Less mass. Now when I am out of town and there is no catholic church, I do go to the lds service because my daughters are there. And yes, I can take the sacrament at the mormon sacrament meeting because there is no mass.

But lets not derail this thread. And so you can respond over on the other section, on the Why Me thread. 🙂
 
Okay here it goes but you will have to promise me that we will not have this discussion on this thread once I reply. We will need to take it over to our favorite section of the forum.

On Sunday, I attend the morning mass because I know more people during that mass. Afterwards, there is a coffee hour with cakes etc. I sit and chat with some of the people that I know. This is at the same time as the mormon sacrament meeting.

However, when possible, I also go to adoration with the nuns at their convent on Monday nights. (This is my Family Home Evening 😉 )They have a chapel in their convent. And I often go to mass on Wednesday and Friday nights and also saturday evenings. Maybe I am crazy but such is my life. But it all depends on my schedule and location. At times I am out of town for long periods and then my schedule changes accordingly. Less mass. Now when I am out of town and there is no catholic church, I do go to the lds service because my daughters are there. And yes, I can take the sacrament at the mormon sacrament meeting because there is no mass.

But lets not derail this thread. And so you can respond over on the other section, on the Why Me thread. 🙂
I haven’t promised anything, and don’t promise anything. You have still not answered the question Do you take communion at any Catholic Church, and take the sacrament at a Mormon sacrament meeting?

I am merely pointing out how you choose to dance around issues.**
 
I haven’t promised anything, and don’t promise anything. You have still not answered the question Do you take communion at any Catholic Church, and take the sacrament at a Mormon sacrament meeting?

I am merely pointing out how you choose to dance around issues.**

I don’t know either of you, and have never seen what is apparently an ongoing argument, but I am alarmed to think that someone is receiving Holy Communion at a Catholic Church and also partaking of Mormon sacraments. This is a direct question and deserves a direct answer. Do you take communion at a Catholic Church?
 
I don’t know either of you, and have never seen what is apparently an ongoing argument, but I am alarmed to think that someone is receiving Holy Communion at a Catholic Church and also partaking of Mormon sacraments. This is a direct question and deserves a direct answer. Do you take communion at a Catholic Church?
Yes, this is an ongoing situation with Why me. He/she has been and still is good at sidestepping direct questions.

Why me stops short of giving complete answers, and makes many comments that give the appearance of trying to “stir people up”.

He/she tries to come off as Catholic, but yet doesn’t know if a TLM mass that he/she attended had readings.

Check out some of the posts by IBKC on this thread, and you will see I am not the only one who has figured Why Me out.

Just one last thing. Whenever Why Me starts to lose credibility on a thread, he/she always brings out the “persecution” argument.

HONEST dialoge is good. Deceptive and twisted dialoge does nothing but inflame.
He/she has partially answered my question, forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=228618&page=12 post 179. However, Why me hasn’t answered the part about taking the sacrament at a Mormon sacrament meeting.
 
My knowlege is limited only to roots of words. I am completely clueless about the grammar, and why a word may end in “us” or “um” or “ae.” So, I can only pick out the roots and then, using logic, figure out what the word means in that sentence.
Whenever I find myself in a quandary about grammar, I’m inclined to revert to what I learned in grammar school. The nuns taught us how to diagram simple and compound sentences. Believe me, it helps in learning any new language. I don’t know if they still teach how to diagram sentences in school, though.
 
Whenever I find myself in a quandary about grammar, I’m inclined to revert to what I learned in grammar school. The nuns taught us how to diagram simple and compound sentences. Believe me, it helps in learning any new language. I don’t know if they still teach how to diagram sentences in school, though.
I do know how to diagram sentences.
I just don’t know anything about Latin grammar. I’ve never studied Latin. I just understand what I do by looking for the roots and comparing the Latin to a translation.
 
Yes, this is an ongoing situation with Why me. He/she has been and still is good at sidestepping direct questions.

Why me stops short of giving complete answers, and makes many comments that give the appearance of trying to “stir people up”.

He/she tries to come off as Catholic, but yet doesn’t know if a TLM mass that he/she attended had readings.

Check out some of the posts by IBKC on this thread, and you will see I am not the only one who has figured Why Me out.

Just one last thing. Whenever Why Me starts to lose credibility on a thread, he/she always brings out the “persecution” argument.

HONEST dialoge is good. Deceptive and twisted dialoge does nothing but inflame.
He/she has partially answered my question, forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=228618&page=12 post 179. However, Why me hasn’t answered the part about taking the sacrament at a Mormon sacrament meeting.
WhyMe has just stated above that s/he takes “the sacraments” at the Mormon services. So, the answer is yes… they’re taking sacraments at both churches. They seem to think that it’s OK because there’s no Mass at Mormon services. I don’t follow that logic. But, the answer is Yes - they’re taking both. Although they seemed to say that they can’t do both in the post you linked to. That’s not true. They said they take them at Mormon services and receive at Catholic Mass.
 
I just understand what I do by looking for the roots and comparing the Latin to a translation.
Nothing wrong with that. Just remember that it’s only a translation, and if you take 10 different people to translate a complex Latin sentence, you will no doubt get 10 different translations. Proficiency occurs when you no longer have to read the translations. However, I don’t see too many reading the Latin side of the side-by-side Latin-English missals at the EF. So, yes, most of us depend on a translation to get us through the Mass.
 
WhyMe has just stated above that s/he takes “the sacraments” at the Mormon services. So, the answer is yes… they’re taking sacraments at both churches. They seem to think that it’s OK because there’s no Mass at Mormon services. I don’t follow that logic. But, the answer is Yes - they’re taking both. Although they seemed to say that they can’t do both in the post you linked to. That’s not true. They said they take them at Mormon services and receive at Catholic Mass.
When I am out of town I take the mormon sacrament because there is no catholic church. The Mass is only once of month where my daughters live. I accompany my daughters to the mormon meetings and take the sacrament. But when I am in town, I go to mass and take the communion.
 
Yes, this is an ongoing situation with Why me. He/she has been and still is good at sidestepping direct questions.

Why me stops short of giving complete answers, and makes many comments that give the appearance of trying to “stir people up”.

He/she tries to come off as Catholic, but yet doesn’t know if a TLM mass that he/she attended had readings.

Check out some of the posts by IBKC on this thread, and you will see I am not the only one who has figured Why Me out.

Just one last thing. Whenever Why Me starts to lose credibility on a thread, he/she always brings out the “persecution” argument.

HONEST dialoge is good. Deceptive and twisted dialoge does nothing but inflame.
He/she has partially answered my question, forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=228618&page=12 post 179. However, Why me hasn’t answered the part about taking the sacrament at a Mormon sacrament meeting.
:crossrc: I feel that I am being tailed by the red barron. I need to upgrade my airplane to a spitfire.
 
Returning to the original question:

Are the readings in a Tridentine Mass ever done only in Latin, when few people know that language? Now, I wouldn’t object if the readings were available in the Missal, or if they were done in both the vernacular and Latin, but isn’t it the objective to have the people know what is being said there?

My mind just boggles at the idea of the Tridentine Mass not giving people full access to the scriptures.
 
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