Understanding of the Real Presence

  • Thread starter Thread starter BayCityRickL
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
B

BayCityRickL

Guest
We have probably all been indoctrinated with the Council of Trent formula that the Eucharist is the “Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ.”

We seem to have a larger tradition that is captured in the line of a familiar hymn: “look beyond the bread you eat, see your Savior and your Lord.”

I seem to connect with the latter on an intuitive basis better than the Trentian definition.

By the same token, I am aghast at the rendering of

1COR 10:16 The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (New American Bible)

Other texts render this verse as " a communion with" the Body of Christ. I have no semantic appreciation for “participation” in the Body of Christ.

At communion, are you connecting with Jesus? the mystical body of believers and Jesus? the gospel and Jesus? Jesus of the last supper? or, it is different each time?
 
BayCityRickL at every Mass the priest bring forth the greatest seed that man has ever known and the bride the church should be like any bride on her wedding night. Thank your priest so very much for this very special seed we call the Eucharist. May it be fertile for you always. This we ask in Jesus name. Amen.
 
40.png
BayCityRickL:
We have probably all been indoctrinated with the Council of Trent formula that the Eucharist is the “Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ.”
Click to expand...
It started a long time before Trent.

Paul said:
1 Cor 11:23-29 “For I received from the Lord what I also handed on to you, that Lord Jesus, on the night he was handed over, took bread, and after he had given thanks, broke it and said, ‘This is MY BODY that is for you. DO this in rememberance of me.’ In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, ‘This cup is the new covenant in MY BLOOD. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.’ For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup you proclaim the death of the Lord until he comes. Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have no answer for the body and blood of the Lord. A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup. FOR ANYONE WHO EATS AND DRINKS WITHOUT DISCERNING THE BODY, EATS AND DRINKS JUDGEMENT ON HIMSELF.”

It is the real presence, body and blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ that we receive according to the Gosples, Epistles and Church Fathers from the beginning of Christianity. It started when Jesus proclaimed “This is My body” .
 
The answer is YES (except No to not different each time).

Read the Catechism of the Catholic Church on the Eucharist. Paragraphs #1322-1419 (yes, read all 98 paragraphs).

It goes into this a lots of detail.

It is excellent and open the doors to much further depths of Truth in many different aspects within the Eucharist.
 
Thanks, I will do that. I guess what I was getting at is that I surely accept the doctrine of the real presence, but the Trentian formula “body, blood, soul, and divinity” doesn’t really address the beauty, the community, the unity with Christ, the peace, etc. of the moment of Communion.

The Mass, and specifically, the Eucharistic meal, is a temporal metaphor or a picture of heaven, where we hope to enjoy an eternal communion with Him, the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top