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Michael16
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That’s a beautiful addition to the thread, @Crocus!
We don’t “pray for” saints, we ask their intercession, as in we ask them to pray for us. (The Catholic shorthand colloquial expression for this is “we prayed to Saint so-and-so”, which means we asked Saint so-and-so to pray for us.) Saints are already in Heaven, so we don’t need to pray for them.So who are all the saints that Catholics pray for other than Mother Mary? (Forgive my ignorance)
RE: praying for saints’ intercession, I would add that it is a very old tradition. For example, we read in the martyrdom of St Polycarp (2nd century) that Christians kept the relics of the saint with great veneration, so it is implied they sought his intercession.Thank you for answering my questions, I am grateful to be a part of this discussion, it’s opened my eyes to a whole new world with God and He has allowed me to share my thoughts with you.
I thought only Jesus could be sinless because He is/was God on earth and when Jesus was crucified what did he mean when he said to the person being crucified next to Him “Behold your Mother” and when He turned to His Mother “Behold your son”. Furthermore why don’t other Baptists acknowledge Mary as their Mother if it was our Lord’s will? I see no problem with praying to saints for intercession or acknowledging Mother Mary as our Mother if it was her Son’s will.1: Mother of God
2: Perpetual Virgin
3: Immaculately Conceived. She was conceived without Original Sin and didn’t have temptations to sin like we do. In other words, Our Lady is and always was sinless.
4: Assumed Body and Soul into heaven. That means she is in heaven, body and soul. All other Saints in heaven are there as souls only.
Wouldn’t it enhance our relationship with Christ due to us carrying out His will?The reason why Protestants downplay any devotion to Our Blessed Mother is that they have a mistaken fear that such a devotion would distract from the adoration due to Christ.
I amuse myself sometimes by trying to find out who the patron saint of . . . . whatever . . . is, because there IS a patron saint for nearly everything you can possibly think of.So who are all the saints that Catholics pray for other than Mother Mary? (Forgive my ignorance)
Before I got on this forum, I started to pray the rosary and joined to get more information on it, praying the rosary everyday helped me put structure in my prayer life and to understand the life of Jesus more fully. Once I started to understand the prayers and mysteries I was meditating on, I wondered why Catholics put so much emphasis on Mother Mary(I didn’t study the bible much before) then when I got to Jesus’s crucifixion and read the “Behold your Mother passage” I understood. Then I started to wonder why Baptist’s didn’t do this as well, as we follow our Father’s will through the Bible so thank you for explaining!A simple way to explain to Protestants our love and devotion to Our Mother is this:
The Commandment says: Honor thy father and thy mother.
Jesus certainly honored and loved His Mother. Am I any better than Christ to not do the same?
How does purgatory purify you? Is it like the burning of sin from your soul? And if everyone sins wouldn’t everyone just go to purgatory or is that what confession is for? To clean sin from one’s soul on earth?Purgatory is a place of purification. Purgatory comes from the word, purge; as to clean and purify.
When we die, we go to either of three places:
A: Heaven. If we die in a state of grace and lived a Saint’s life. Boom; we go straight to heaven.
B: Purgatory. If we die in a state of grace but still were attached to sins; we undergo the purifying fire of Purgatory to purge those attachments to sin. Once the purging is done, we ascend into heaven clean and pure.
C: We die in a state of mortal sin and unrepentant; we go to hell. God doesn’t condemn people to hell. People freely choose to go to hell and God gives us that free choice.
So the two are different. The forgiveness of sin is just that and confession cleanses our sin from us but we still face the consequences of our sins which is where purgatory comes in? Didn’t Jesus die on the cross to receive purgatory in our place so we wouldn’t have to face the wrath of God?Confession absolves us from sin; God forgives us sins.