This is a very subjective position to hold, so I guess we both are in that boat. Dialogue is critical for Fr Martin, since it means that you sit down and actually have an honest conversation - listening being as important as speaking. It means a lot to those in the LGBTQ community - to be heard and respected.The issue that most people have with him us that he never takes a concrete position on anything. The end product of his vision is just ’ dialogue’ instead of repentance and reform.
You talk a lot about ‘them.’ It doesn’t help to create the ‘other’ when it comes to any human being, especially your brothers and sisters in Christ. Perhaps you might want to look at that - motes and logs in the eye and all that.However, my concern is that under the notion of dialogue, the LGBTQ activists are just advocating for acceptance of their lifestyle. If someone I knew was a struggling homosexual or heterosexual (adultery, fornication etc) I would love, pray and listen to them , but would still advocate they changed their lifestyle.
I do not see this at all with Fr.Martin . Organizations such as Courage that help promote chastity among homosexuals are not advocated .
The LGBTQ lobby is powerful, they want acceptance of their lifestyle. They started with popular culture and have in a way pushed and promoted their ideology in governments, schools , courts etc. any opposition is shut down. Is anyone listening to the non-LGBTQ people?
No church i have been part of has removed them
I wouldn’t fuss too much about other people’s pilgrimages. I would rather pay attention to how to care for them in the most loving way. And Fr Martin gives us ways in which we can do that best.Sitting around and saying ’ It’s ok don’t worry about it ’ does a great disservice to the pilgrim .