Unexpected pregnancy, disapproving family

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Brothers and sisters, I need your prayers, advice, anything you can offer! My wonderful DH and I are both 34, we are approaching our 10th wedding anniversary this summer, and we have three beautiful, healthy children. I gave birth to our daughter Gianna this past August, and we couldn’t be more in love with our sweet little girl. Unfortunately, ever since the birth of our son (our first child) back in 2011, I’ve had a good amount of health issues. I almost died of a uterine infection when our son was 12 days old. When he was 9 months old, the gallbladder attacks that I had been having for months landed me in the hospital (I had so many gallstones, they were beginning to block my liver and kidneys). I had my gallbladder removed, but I was in such bad shape I was hospitalized for a week, and I had a stent put in my intestines, and that was removed 2 months later. When I was pregnant with our daughter Alessandra in 2013, I started experiencing terrible back pain, to the point where I had a hard time walking. After I gave birth, I was sent in for an MRI, and then sent to a neurosurgeon, as my back looked pretty awful. I was diagnosed with degenerative disk disease, and a “massive” herniated disk (my L5 and S1). I tried everything from physical therapy, to an epidural injection, chiropractic care, pain meds, the works. Nothing was helping, and my back pain was getting worse. It was at that point-November 2014-I discovered I was pregnant again.

The Army moved us from Georgia to Colorado (my husband is active duty), and I saw a wonderful CNM and a neurosurgeon here. The neuro basically said, “well, come back and see me when you’re not pregnant,” and my CNM had to prescribe pregnancy-safe pain meds for me to take, because at this point my back pain was just unbearable. (Not to mention I tend to give birth to larger than average babies!). After Gianna was born, my husband and I firmly agreed that until my back was fixed, we were going to TTA. I had a microdiscectomy in early January, and as soon as I woke up in recovery, my neurosurgeon was standing over me, and he said (exact words), “I’m regretting doing the microdiscectomy. Your L5 wasn’t so much herniated as it is completely disintegrated, and you basically don’t have a lower back right now. I have absolutely no idea how you’ve even managed to walk. You need spinal fusion surgery, but I want to wait awhile before you go under the knife again.” :eek: Well, definitely not what I was hoping to hear.

Since then, my pain has been horrific. I can’t even begin to describe how much I hate taking pain medication, but I have no choice. Well, my cycles have been off these past few months, and I was having difficulty charting. I noticed at the end of February my period was a few days late, and I thought, “hey, finally, my body is starting to right itself!” When 12 days went by, I began to get nervous. I was convinced there was no possible way I could be pregnant, but I thought I would take a test to put my mind at ease. I’m sure you know where this is going…

It didn’t even take 10 seconds for the second line to show up on the test. I started sobbing hysterically, my husband was in shock…I’ve never felt so lost, so depressed. To be clear, I’m not unhappy about a fourth baby, but the timing could not be worse. Gianna is only 7 months old. It was my goal to nurse her as long as possible, but since getting pregnant, my milk supply completely dried up. The thought of going through another pregnancy with chronic pain makes me want to vomit. Not to mention, I knew my family was going to go ballistic.

Both my husband and I are converts to the faith. My parents are not religious at ALL (though they consider themselves Christians) and they are extremely unsupportive, if not downright hostile, towards NFP. My mother has the mentality of “there is absolutely no reason anyone should have more than 2 children, unless they’re 2 children of the same sex, and you feel the need to try for a third.” If she was just concerned for my health and my back pain, I would understand. It’s a valid concern. But she’s made several remarks about how three children is MORE than enough, she criticizes large families all the time, and she asks very personal (and I feel, inappropriate) questions about our family planning.

Well, my husband told my parents today while FaceTiming with our kids. My dad just looked at him and walked out of the room. My mom immediately began berating me, asking what was WRONG with me, how in the world could I do this, etc. DH cut her off right away, and told her that I didn’t do anything wrong, there were two of us involved, and he wasn’t going to stand for her or my dad putting shame and guilt on my shoulders. (Did I mention he’s a wonderful man? I don’t know what I would do without him). I just feel…so discouraged. So depressed. I love my family dearly, and while I understand their concern about my health, I don’t understand why they act as though another grandchild is a fate worse than death. I just want to curl up in a ball and cry. I also come from an Italian American family (my parents are SUPER traditional), and disappointing my parents has always been devastating to me. I’ve always been the “good” child, and when I do something even slightly out of the ordinary, my parents, particularly my mom, act as though I’ve ruined their lives.

I am in desperate need of prayers, and if anyone has any advice, I will gladly take that as well! A huge glass of wine (or whatever your poison) if you’ve made it through my novel. Thanks for listening.
 
I’m sorry your parents were cruel to you, there was no need to berate you. Is there a way to find support at your local parish? If the pastor could ask people there to help pray and support your family, it might help you feel better. Have you an ob/gyn to help with the pregnancy and pain issues?
 
I’m sorry your parents were cruel to you, there was no need to berate you. Is there a way to find support at your local parish? If the pastor could ask people there to help pray and support your family, it might help you feel better. Have you an ob/gyn to help with the pregnancy and pain issues?
We just joined a new parish (we were unhappy with the parish on the military base), but I belong to the Catholic Women of the Chapel. They are wonderful ladies, and so supportive. I know I can reach out to them for help if need be. I had my first appointment with my midwife last week, and she had a lot of good suggestions. She told me whether he likes it or not, my neurosurgeon needs to be involved this time, and he can’t just say “come back when you’re not pregnant.” She told me at my next appointment with him (on the 29th) I should sign a records release so my midwife and neuro can collaborate during my pregnancy, and work together to manage my pain.
 
Pyramidsloth,

As somebody who has been pregnant a number of times in some tough situations, including times of serious health problems, I could almost feel your rising panic and the hysteria as you saw the two pink lines. I’ve been there–I called my aunt right after seeing those lines during a particularly bad spot, and she couldn’t even understand what I was saying I was crying so hard. She thought one of my children must have died!

All I can say is that it all worked out. It didn’t always work out easily. But I survived, and you will, too. This, too, shall pass. I can honestly say now that I am grateful for the times of horrible physical suffering (not that I would ever, ever choose to go through them again!) because they have made me grateful for every single day I don’t feel pain and misery (which, praise God, is the vast majority of my days now). I will pray that you will get to that point, too.

I don’t know if this will make you feel any better, but it’s not just NFP-haters who can be cruel about unplanned pregnancies. My mother is totally against artificial birth control and used NFP herself and has still been cruel to me over getting pregnant during times of illness. Obviously, I was so stupid I missed fertility signs or too sexually uncontrolled to abstain (and during a time in my life when I had serious reason for avoiding pregnancy, to boot) or else I would not be pregnant. I cannot imagine being such a miserable person as to excoriate another woman when she ends up pregnant in a very bad spot, so I just feel sorry for people who act that way. That is not the behavior of a happy human being.

Prayers for healing, health, and happiness being sent your way!
 
Wow!

And not in a good way!

Your mother is being flat out disgusting. If my mother responded to a pregnancy announcement like that, I would probably say something along the lines of, “Gee, ma. I’m sorry if my unforeseen major health concerns for myself and my baby are a nuisance to you. What exactly can I do to make this easier on you?”

No, wait. That’s what I would say in my normal frame of mind. In my pregnancy frame of mind, I would unleash a tirade of insults and profanity on her, hang up the phone, and not speak to her for at least 8 more months. And I would feel perfectly justified in doing so.

Presuming that isn’t the way you want to go, and since you’ve already hung up the facechat session anyway, I would skip the tirade and just go straight for the cutting off contact for the next 8 months or maybe even longer. No woman needs or deserves that kind of negativity and certainly not someone who is dealing with the fear and pain of being pregnant while in an unstable medical situation AND caring for an infant at the same time. Just disconnect the phone and deal with your mother when you’ve got the more important things on your plate under control. That’s my advice. Also, congratulations on your new baby and your newer baby!
 
Well, my husband told my parents today while FaceTiming with our kids. My dad just looked at him and walked out of the room. My mom immediately began berating me, asking what was WRONG with me, how in the world could I do this, etc…

I just feel…so discouraged. So depressed. I love my family dearly, and while I understand their concern about my health, I don’t understand why they act as though another grandchild is a fate worse than death. I just want to curl up in a ball and cry. I also come from an Italian American family (my parents are SUPER traditional), and disappointing my parents has always been devastating to me. I’ve always been the “good” child, and when I do something even slightly out of the ordinary, my parents, particularly my mom, act as though I’ve ruined their lives.
I hope that you don’t mind me being blunt. Your parents abuse you like this because you let them. Your parents’ worldview is Evil, albeit commonplace, and they are trying to convert you to that faith. Please don’t let them.
 
Congratulations!

I think the biggest challenge here is setting boundaries for your parents, especially your mom! Thank God for your wonderful husband, he’s got your back- such as it is!

Your mom is asking inappropriate questions, and it appears that you are answering them. Your family planning is none of her business. Don’t answer her or get into it with her.

As for contact, I would let them know the next time **they **contact you that you will not put up with any criticism or berating by them, and that if they do, you will hang up and not speak to them until they are respectful of you. That’s the great thing about being a grown up! 😉

I hope your neurosurgeon is willing to cooperate with your mid-wife, or else I would consider finding a new one.

You may want to post a thread in the prayer intention forum for ongoing prayers throughout your pregnancy. I would post prayers for you there, and I know other people would too.
 
Praying for you and your family. My husband is also active duty. One advantage we have is that with Tricare you have many options for care. If a provider is not giving you the care you feel is appropriate, don’t hesitate to ask for a referral to someone else. Let the referral office know why you need another opinion. Thankfully I’ve never had family be disappointed about another baby, but most of the rest of the world seems to be. I am very sorry you have that to deal with. If you need someone to talk to, feel free to PM me. I’ve got back problems as well and pregnancy really makes things hard sometimes.
 
I am very sorry to hear of all your hardship. And I don’t think what I have to say is going to make you feel supported, but I feel the need to say it anyway. Hearing your story has given me a lot of joy ! I am NOT happy that you are suffering, however, I am impressed with your strength. All the odds are against you and your mind is made up to keep doing God’s will. This world needs more people like you !
 
I am very sorry to hear of all your hardship. And I don’t think what I have to say is going to make you feel supported, but I feel the need to say it anyway. Hearing your story has given me a lot of joy ! I am NOT happy that you are suffering, however, I am impressed with your strength. All the odds are against you and your mind is made up to keep doing God’s will. This world needs more people like you !
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I am very sorry to hear of all your hardship. And I don’t think what I have to say is going to make you feel supported, but I feel the need to say it anyway. Hearing your story has given me a lot of joy ! I am NOT happy that you are suffering, however, I am impressed with your strength. All the odds are against you and your mind is made up to keep doing God’s will. This world needs more people like you !
Very nice post.
 
If your PCM won’t refer you off post then drop Tricare prime. Your situation is WAY above an Army neurosurgeons pay grade.
 
What a strong woman you are. It is not easy to be strong in this world and I want you to know that your post took my breath away. Also, many thumbs up to your husband. I am deeply sorry to read of your parents’s reaction because I believe to the bottom of my heart that the only thing a woman (family) wants to hear when they announce a new pregnancy is CONGRATULATIONS. Any other response is beyond awful - even if you yourself, the pregnant woman, burst into tears at the news.

And based on what you are walking through, why wouldn’t your burst into tears?! I would. I can’t tell you how many women I have walked with who burst into tears upon learning of an unplanned pregnancy. It’s not uncommon.

I will hold you in my prayers. As a Protestant, I will not pretend to understand that someone in your condition (chronic pain, back in shatters, 4 children and one on the way) cannot avail yourself in the future of birth control options that might better protect your health. I respect whatever path you choose with that. But if I were in your shoes, I would seek out a priest and/or spiritual advisor who might help you find a future path that your faith deems soundl.

I will keep you and the life that grows inside of you in my heart and my prayers. I will tell you that some of those women who I know personally who burst into tears when they discovered they were pregnant TODAY cannot imagine what their life would be like without that child, whose initial knock at the door caused them so much stress and strife and, frankly, terror.

You are clearly a wonderful Momma and God often blesses wonderful Mommas with many children. Makes sense to me.

My love to you - thank you for your candor and your faith. Never forget that the well of God’s preserving love and strength has no bottom. Take care of yourself.

Yours in Christ,

LS

As for your parents, I mean no disrespect with this next statement, but the Bible tells us we leave our parents and cleave to our mate. That works for me. You didn’t do anything wrong so please don’t accept the inference that you did. God bless.
 
I am very sorry to hear of all your hardship. And I don’t think what I have to say is going to make you feel supported, but I feel the need to say it anyway. Hearing your story has given me a lot of joy ! I am NOT happy that you are suffering, however, I am impressed with your strength. All the odds are against you and your mind is made up to keep doing God’s will. This world needs more people like you !
How is that not supportive?
 
I’m sorry to hear that your parents aren’t being supportive. I will be praying for you and your unborn child.
 
God bless you & your husband for choosing life. Praying for you, your husband & your family.
 
God bless you.
The names you have chosen for your children are stunning.
I’m keeping you in my prayers.
Please keep us updates, and tell you mom that you love her, but you can onlly be around or speak to helpful people.
As someone said, on’t let her trample all over you.
Please DO place a thread in the prayer request section.
 
I’m so sorry that your parents have reacted in such a heartless and cruel manner. (And they don’t sound all that “traditional Italian” to me; if they were, they’d be Catholic, and welcoming a big family with joy!)

I’ll keep you in my prayers.
 
How is that not supportive?
I was scared I would not word it the right way. And I can’t help but think there are times when one needs practical advice not just praise for their strength. Sadly, I have no practical advice to give (which I suspect the OP was needing).

I must admit, I feel relieved that my post came across in the good way I was hoping it would 🙂
 
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