Uniformity of Mormon Sacred Architecture

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dianaiad:
Why are the Swiss Guards some of the best trained military troops in the world, and are armed to the teeth? Why are there locks on the poor box at St. Patricks’ cathedral?
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Only the most holy, the most “worthy” Mormons are allowed into your temples. They need a temple “recommend” (a certificate of holiness) to gain entrance. It is counter-intuitive to think that they need to lock up valuables in the temple.

On the other hand, anyone is welcomed into Vatican City or into St. Patrick’s cathedral. No one asks to see your certificate of holiness at the door. You really don’t see the difference?
 
PaulDupre said:
Only the most holy, the most “worthy” Mormons are allowed into your temples. They need a temple “recommend” (a certificate of holiness) to gain entrance. It is counter-intuitive to think that they need to lock up valuables in the temple.

On the other hand, anyone is welcomed into Vatican City or into St. Patrick’s cathedral. No one asks to see your certificate of holiness at the door. You really don’t see the difference?
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Based upon what you said earlier about Mormon bishops lack of discernment, it is a better assumption that only Mormons capable or willing to tell the bishop whatever it takes to enter the temple actually enter. That hardly sounds like there is a standard of holiness. I suspect that Mormons would like for it to be so, but evidently it is not. That seems sad to me.

A Cathedral is a place of worship; not a temple. Mormons have places of worship that all can enter. I suspect you are comparing apples an oranges. Catholics do not build temples. Catholics do maintain monasteries that have a restricted entrance. Why do you think they restrict who enters? I suspect they do it for the same reasons Mormons do it; they seek to maintain holy places.
 
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Don’t make Sister Mary Big Ruler angry, you wouldn’t like her when she’s angry…

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LongJourney said:
Mormon bishops usually have no training in psychology, and their culture does not lend itself to the concept of “servant leadership” that Jesus taught. A Catholic priest gives up a lot on the way to becoming a priest, and has to pass through many screens for selfish intent. Informed discernment is much different from discernment claimed through divine intervention alone. A Mormon bishop on his way to becoming a bishop often has gaining power and prestige as his goal.
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I hate what I am about to say, because I honestly do not believe that the entire Catholic priesthood should be, or CAN be, tarnished over this. However, the fact of the matter is this: even with all the training, the sacrifice, the years of dedication and everything you have mentioned regarding the calling and selection of priests…

You still have predators who enter in; who have entered the priesthood–even perhaps for the right reasons at first, but who, nevertheless, used it for their own–nasty–purposes.

I’m certain that you would not, as I do not, judge the entire priesthood by the actions of less than 2% of them. Still, there ARE 1.6% of them that mess up–in spite of all the training you mention here…in spite of all the years of training you mention.

As well, are you certain that a declaration that Mormons are not familiar with “servant leadership” is wise, given that LDS Bishops serve voluntarily, do NOT get paid, and have to earn their own livings? Given this, also, do you really want to make the charge that LDS bishops become so because they want the “power and prestige?”

True, I do know at least one who absolutely did that. He was an abysmally bad bishop…and ended up excommunicated later in his life. However, he’s the only one I have ever met who would qualify, and I have known a great many bishops–including several in my own family.
 
amontoya said:
Here’s a Mormon temple that, IMO, is a little ugly.
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Well, yeah…but it’s Manhattan. We didn’t have a whole lot of options. ;)_

I would say that this one would have to be judged more by the interior than the exterior…

which is certainly not San Diego!
 
Todd520 said:
Yea, alot depends on the angle of photo, and your mood when viewing. Also most structures look much better at night with goo lighting.

This one is intriguing, but I don’t like it for a Temple (Monte Grisa)

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I don’t like it for a church either, (or for much of anything else) and the inside is the same and I haven’t found a shot of it I like. So no redeeming qualities IMO kind of like the black box borg building earlier in the thread:)
 
zaffiroborant said:
I don’t know I like it, though it may be like the Liverpool cathedral and it’s the shot of it I like and the building itself not so much. I also like the RLDS (right?) shell temple, inside and out:shrug:
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I know what that one reminds me of! It’s not that it is not magnificent…I appreciate the way it swoops up; it’s rather an homage to the old cathedrals and their ultimate purpose, which (with the towers and flying butresses and all) were actually symbolising a very literal reaching up to heaven.

In Los Angeles (and I can’t even remember the name of the town it’s in…) there is an absolutely wonderful-looking wall; very detailed, very long–very classical, with frescos and columns; it looks great from the freeway. One expects, when one passes by it, that behind it is something spectacular; museums, perhaps, or a grand university, or a magnificent park. Instead, from the day it was constructed, it hid…a utility company, a junk yard, a shopping center–and none of those things really had anything to do with the wall. It was disconcerting.

I just realized why this particular shot of this particular building bugged me–it’s a little like that wall.

Where’s the back part?
 
dianaiad said:
I know what that one reminds me of! It’s not that it is not magnificent…I appreciate the way it swoops up; it’s rather an homage to the old cathedrals and their ultimate purpose, which (with the towers and flying butresses and all) were actually symbolising a very literal reaching up to heaven.

In Los Angeles (and I can’t even remember the name of the town it’s in…) there is an absolutely wonderful-looking wall; very detailed, very long–very classical, with frescos and columns; it looks great from the freeway. One expects, when one passes by it, that behind it is something spectacular; museums, perhaps, or a grand university, or a magnificent park. Instead, from the day it was constructed, it hid…a utility company, a junk yard, a shopping center–and none of those things really had anything to do with the wall. It was disconcerting.

I just realized why this particular shot of this particular building bugged me–it’s a little like that wall.

Where’s the back part?
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That’s what I thought, where is the rest of it what does the backside look like. It’s like the false fronts in old westerns. And did “old west” towns really build them??? But I still like it, and the sea shell one that reminds me of both Christmas candy (done in rock candy) and playing with my moms tape measure.
 
zaffiroborant said:
That’s what I thought, where is the rest of it what does the backside look like. It’s like the false fronts in old westerns. And did “old west” towns really build them??? But I still like it, and the sea shell one that reminds me of both Christmas candy (done in rock candy) and playing with my moms tape measure.
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regarding the false fronts…

yep, they really did. 😉

Sometimes the false fronts were even portable–in mining towns they would put one up in front of a tent (specifically in gambling establishements and stores) and when the town moved, so did the businesses, tents, false fronts and all. 😉

Shoot, we still do. I’m thinking specifically of our newest local WalMart, for instance, that is basically a huge square warehouse–except if you look at it from the front, looks like a series of different, very Spanish buildings, complete with bell tower (and bell!)
 
dianaiad said:
regarding the false fronts…

yep, they really did. 😉

Sometimes the false fronts were even portable–in mining towns they would put one up in front of a tent (specifically in gambling establishements and stores) and when the town moved, so did the businesses, tents, false fronts and all. 😉

Shoot, we still do. I’m thinking specifically of our newest local WalMart, for instance, that is basically a huge square warehouse–except if you look at it from the front, looks like a series of different, very Spanish buildings, complete with bell tower (and bell!)
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Wow I’ve got 4 Walmarts within 15 minutes of home and they all look the same and nothing like you describe. I’ve been cheated!
 
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