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I am Catholic and raised to believe in a unity among all Christianity. I’ve always spoke with others of other Christian churches and spoke of similarities. The main one? Christ crucified, died and rose from the dead for our sins. It’s interesting to me that we start there and then all of a sudden, in some case, conflicts are brought up. Then, the next thing I notice is that I’m attacked for things half truths of what I believe. So, I’d like to see how long this string can go without someone taking a jab at another Christian faith (or, for that matter, negativity toward any other religious group). I say, let’s try and keep this going and see where it leads. If you don’t have anything positive to say (even if it is a belief that is unlike mine); just move onto another site. But if there is something positive to say, please post it. Sound good?
 
I am Catholic and raised to believe in a unity among all Christianity. I’ve always spoke with others of other Christian churches and spoke of similarities. The main one? Christ crucified, died and rose from the dead for our sins. It’s interesting to me that we start there and then all of a sudden, in some case, conflicts are brought up. Then, the next thing I notice is that I’m attacked for things half truths of what I believe. So, I’d like to see how long this string can go without someone taking a jab at another Christian faith (or, for that matter, negativity toward any other religious group). I say, let’s try and keep this going and see where it leads. If you don’t have anything positive to say (even if it is a belief that is unlike mine); just move onto another site. But if there is something positive to say, please post it. Sound good?
We have much more with our separated brethren than not, actually. We all believe in Jesus Christ, Son of God, in the Bible, heaven and hell, etc.

But I think the only way we can be truly unified again is to be unified in the whole truths of Christ, i.e., in the teachings of the Catholic Church which alone has the fullness of Christ’s Divinely revealed truths. Truth isn’t an abstract idea, it is a Person, Jesus Christ. Christ is the Truth, and He cannot be separated into parts. 🙂

I heard someone explain it in terms of math once. (I was a math major in college, so that made sense to me.) If I claimed to “love” and “believe in” math with my whole heart, but didn’t believe in addition, then I wouldn’t have any of the rest of math because addition is integral to it. 🙂

That being said, I think some of our separated brethren live the partial truth they have better than some of us Catholics live the whole truth we have. From whom much is given, much will be required. Yikes! :eek: 🙂
 
Well, the evidence doesn’t show that true Christian unity is going to be achieved on this earth amongst our separated brethren.
It is my belief that the purification process for unity will be completed in the state called Purgatory before we all move on to perfect unity with the Trinity , the Saints and the Holy Angels, rejoicing forever together in heaven. Amen! Carlan
 
Hope it will be done on Our Time …
Let’s pray for that unity! we once were 1… we need to comeback…
 
Hope it will be done on Our Time …
Let’s pray for that unity! we once were 1… we need to comeback…
For sure, Alcrusader, but my time here below is much closer to this finish line, so I don’t think this time is on my side to get me to see it, so, my hope is on the other side.;)😛 Peace, Carlan
 
But I think the only way we can be truly unified again is to be unified in the whole truths of Christ, i.e., in the teachings of the Catholic Church which alone has the fullness of Christ’s Divinely revealed truths.
(That was a jab at the Orthodox. The OP said we’re not supposed to go there. I’m hitting the reset button.)
 
(That was a jab at the Orthodox. The OP said we’re not supposed to go there. I’m hitting the reset button.)
Actually, I have never considered the Orthodox as Protestant (because they’re not). The Orthodox are Apostolic. They have a valid priesthood and all seven Sacraments, as opposed to Protestantism which has no valid priesthood and only two Sacraments (baptism and matrimony). The Church would allow me, if I were traveling, for example, and couldn’t find a Catholic Church, to attend an Orthodox Church and receive Holy Communion. (Although, from what I understand, the Orthodox would not allow it. Is that true?) And the Catholic Church would allow an Orthodox person to attend Mass and receive the Holy Eucharist, no problem.

Anyway, I’m not “jabbing” at anyone. I’m merely telling the truth, calmly and with charity. 🙂
 
I am Catholic and raised to believe in a unity among all Christianity. I’ve always spoke with others of other Christian churches and spoke of similarities. The main one? Christ crucified, died and rose from the dead for our sins. It’s interesting to me that we start there and then all of a sudden, in some case, conflicts are brought up. Then, the next thing I notice is that I’m attacked for things half truths of what I believe. So, I’d like to see how long this string can go without someone taking a jab at another Christian faith (or, for that matter, negativity toward any other religious group). I say, let’s try and keep this going and see where it leads. If you don’t have anything positive to say (even if it is a belief that is unlike mine); just move onto another site. But if there is something positive to say, please post it. Sound good?
I have found great value in reading Luther’s works on Baptism. Even his views on the Lord’s Supper to a degree (not trying to take a “jab” 😉 ) have been rewarding. Also the Lutheran teaching on Sola Scriptura appears to me to be the most theologically sound belief on Sola Scriptura that I have found. If one is going to believe SS you may as well be a Lutheran… that’s my view any way.

I can’t think of too many authors who have had a greater impact on my faith than C.S. Lewis (well one off the top of my head; G.K. Chesterton).

I like the Anglican freedom in doctrine but acknowledge that it has led into a great deal of problems. (women ordination, abortion etc.)

God bless
 
Let’s Keep this going.

One statement made I thought was interesting (not that it’s the only one, mind you, as many of the statements, I thought, were well said); but there was the statement that evidence doesn’t show true unity will be achieved on this earth. In fact, to take that statement further, true unity will not happen among all Catholics if we’re going down this path. After all, not all Christians, Catholic or otherwise, are going to Heaven. Some WILL go to Hell.

The unity I see possible though, I think, is a different type. There can be a unity of wanting to spread God’s Word as opposed to proving ourselves or our religion as the end all be all. I can see a possibilty of seeking Truth over our own version of it.

My belief? Catholicism has the fullness of knowledge. If I didn’t, I wouldn’t be Catholic.

The importance of the above statement? Not that I believe it or that it’s Catholic but, rather, the searching for Christ as completely as possible.

Peter Kreeft makes a statement in a great book called “Prayer for Beginners”. He stated what he considered the shortest prayer we can say at anytime because it’s so short and, at the same time, it’s complete coverning any issue. That prayer was stated by a father who’s son was cured from being possessed: “Lord, have mercy on me, a sinner.”

Christ is the Truth, the Way, and the Life. It is only through our willingness to follow and our faith to turn our lives over to God and His mercy (Oh, Lord, THANK YOU for your mercy!!!). For when we put our lives into God’s hands, this is when the transformation happens. It is Him and only Him who makes all things possible.
 
Hope it will be done on Our Time …
Let’s pray for that unity! we once were 1… we need to comeback…
This is of the best of things to do, I will make it part of my devotions for this lunar month.

I think to bring about Christian unity we need to build connections and relationships between denominations. What works for me in doing this and you need to pray for what you are called to do.

It is best not to encourage conversations defining belief but just share in each others lives until we have relationship.

Christians share the same value system it is Jesus (pbwh), enjoy sharing of the fruits from your gifts.

In time and i mean a long time for some the relationship is genuine and you will have EARNED the right to speak into their lives, to maybe gently warn if you see them in error.

The time is coming fast dear brethren, it is best Christians unite sooner than later.

In unity we have strength to love the world as Our Fathers creation deserves.

I have prayed about this lately,
The western world needs religious representation in politics of Christians in unity and in worldly unity with other monotheistic religions, where possible .
I said worldly unity as humans have spiritual differences that we trust in Our Father to light for us at the correct time. It is especially good if we all pray some common prayers. The one True G-d will truly be glorified as no false god can near Him.

If we believers do not reclaim some of the basic rights of humans in both the west and east times ahead will be much harder, for the justice for them is coming, better in unity represented in politics with democracy will it be done with mercy. Unless your or our last day comes first.

Those who have not it will be taken from so better we have sooner so we will be given more.

The only way to have is to reclaim.

Those of you who watch global religious and political trends will understand this quick but its plain for all to see.

“I will be who I will be.” you have free will so choose who you see

Any how i could prattle on, sorry
May G-d bless you for your hearts and actions for Christian unity.
 
=Patrick Ambrose;6948507]. There can be a unity of wanting to spread God’s Word as opposed to proving ourselves or our religion as the end all be all. I can see a possibilty of seeking Truth over our own version of it.
Two of your statments bother me because you say that you are Catholic. The Catholic Church is the “end all be all” because it is the only divinely revealed religion.

The Catholic Church has the fullness of Truth not just a version of it.

I’m all in favor of the spreading of “God’s Word” but Truth cannot co-exist with error. How could there be unity when Protestants believe that “God’s Word” teaches faith alone and absolute assurance of salvation? I have been in conversation with Protestant pastors that tell me one can commit adultery, incest etc and not confess and repent and that person is still saved as long as they have accepted Christ as their savior. How can there be unity with those who adhere to teachings that can send someone to hell?

We cannot seek unity without truth. Here are some excerpts from Vatican II *Decree on Ecumenism. *
  1. The restoration of unity among all Christians is one of the principal concerns of the Second Vatican Council. Christ the Lord founded one Church and one Church only. However, many Christian communions present themselves to men as the true inheritors of Jesus Christ; all indeed profess to be followers of the Lord but differ in mind and go their different ways, as if Christ Himself were divided. Such division openly contradicts the will of Christ, scandalizes the world, and damages the holy cause of preaching the Gospel to every creature.
In order to establish this His holy Church everywhere in the world till the end of time, Christ entrusted to the College of the Twelve the task of teaching, ruling and sanctifying. Among their number He selected Peter, and after his confession of faith determined that on him He would build His Church. Also to Peter He promised the keys of the kingdom of heaven

Jesus Christ, then, willed that the apostles and their successors -the bishops with Peter’s successor at their head-should preach the Gospel faithfully, administer the sacraments, and rule the Church in love. It is thus, under the action of the Holy Spirit, that Christ wills His people to increase, and He perfects His people’s fellowship in unity: in their confessing the one faith, celebrating divine worship in common, and keeping the fraternal harmony of the family of God.

The Church, then, is God’s only flock; it is like a standard lifted high for the nations to see it: for it serves all mankind through the Gospel of peace as it makes its pilgrim way in hope toward the goal of the fatherland above

It follows that the separated Churches and Communities as such, though we believe them to be deficient in some respects, have been by no means deprived of significance and importance in the mystery of salvation. For the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as means of salvation which derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Church.

Nevertheless, our separated brethren, whether considered as individuals or as Communities and Churches, are not blessed with that unity which Jesus Christ wished to bestow on all those who through Him were born again into one body, and with Him quickened to newness of life-that unity which the Holy Scriptures and the ancient Tradition of the Church proclaim. For it is only through Christ’s Catholic Church, which is “the all-embracing means of salvation,” that they can benefit fully from the means of salvation.

We believe that Our Lord entrusted all the blessings of the New Covenant to the apostolic college alone, of which Peter is the head, in order to establish the one Body of Christ on earth to which all should be fully incorporated who belong in any way to the people of God. This people of God, though still in its members liable to sin, is ever growing in Christ during its pilgrimage on earth, and is guided by God’s gentle wisdom, according to His hidden designs, until it shall happily arrive at the fullness of eternal glory in the heavenly Jerusalem.
  1. The way and method in which the Catholic faith is expressed should never become an obstacle to dialogue with our brethren. It is, of course, essential that the doctrine should be clearly presented in its entirety. Nothing is so foreign to the spirit of ecumenism as a false irenicism, in which the purity of Catholic doctrine suffers loss and its genuine and certain meaning is clouded.
    At the same time, the Catholic faith must be explained more profoundly and precisely, in such a way and in such terms as our separated brethren can also really understand.
  2. But while the Christians who are separated from us hold the divine authority of the Sacred Books, they differ from ours-some in one way, some in another-regarding the relationship between Scripture and the Church. For, according to Catholic belief, the authentic teaching authority of the Church has a special place in the interpretation and preaching of the written word of God.
  3. Now that we have briefly set out the conditions for ecumenical action and the principles by which it is to be directed, we look with confidence to the future. This Sacred Council exhorts the faithful to refrain from superficiality and imprudent zeal, which can hinder real progress toward unity. Their ecumenical action must be fully and sincerely Catholic, that is to say, faithful to the truth which we have received from the apostles and Fathers of the Church, in harmony with the faith which the Catholic Church has always professed, and at the same time directed toward that fullness to which Our Lord wills His Body to grow in the course of time.
 
Good try, Patrick. There’s already several divisive statements in just 10 posts.
 
I have found great value in reading Luther’s works on Baptism. Even his views on the Lord’s Supper to a degree (not trying to take a “jab” 😉 ) have been rewarding. Also the Lutheran teaching on Sola Scriptura appears to me to be the most theologically sound belief on Sola Scriptura that I have found. If one is going to believe SS you may as well be a Lutheran… that’s my view any way.

I can’t think of too many authors who have had a greater impact on my faith than C.S. Lewis (well one off the top of my head; G.K. Chesterton).

I like the Anglican freedom in doctrine but acknowledge that it has led into a great deal of problems. (women ordination, abortion etc.)

God bless
I too am a fan of Lewis, Chesterton and Luther. 👍
 
I am Catholic and raised to believe in a unity among all Christianity. I’ve always spoke with others of other Christian churches and spoke of similarities. The main one? Christ crucified, died and rose from the dead for our sins. It’s interesting to me that we start there and then all of a sudden, in some case, conflicts are brought up. Then, the next thing I notice is that I’m attacked for things half truths of what I believe. So, I’d like to see how long this string can go without someone taking a jab at another Christian faith (or, for that matter, negativity toward any other religious group). I say, let’s try and keep this going and see where it leads. If you don’t have anything positive to say (even if it is a belief that is unlike mine); just move onto another site. But if there is something positive to say, please post it. Sound good?
I agree with you all Trinitatian Christians do hold the same basic tenets of faith. We simply celebrate our faith differently.

The problem I see is people not understanding that these differing celebrations are simply applications and not differing interpretations of GOD’s Word.

Well I brush my teeth after breakfast- my grandmother brushed her teeth before breakfast? LOL! At least we both brushed our teeth in the morning!!
 
Sadly, that’s not the case.
Well, in an absolute sense, you’re right, I think. It is so difficult to talk about Protestants as a whole because they are so very diversified in their beliefs. The disunity is built-in and must continue until Protestantism ceases to be because there is no final authority for anyone’s theories of belief. Anyone has the perceived right to believe anything they want as long as they can twist some snippet of Scripture to fit their desires.
 
Our commonality is the Lord Jesus Christ.

When others seek to argue re issues of faith; all that avails is to say, “There is only Jesus.”

A young friend asked once what was in my beliefs and practices that identifie dme as Catholic; I simply said that she knows that there are differences, and why dwell on those? ( she is non-denom but attends Baptist). She went then to Mass to see and realised that the liturgy is totally Scriptural.

Had I argued/discussed with her there would be strife and no peace.

And that is the only answer; always and only Jesus.
 
Blessings and peace be with you all,

We are all created by the same God, and the same God hears all our prayers, despite all our differences.

You will never look into the eyes of anyone who does not matter to God.

Eric
 
There will be many things that people see here to be uncomfortable, bothersome and just plain wrong in their view. The point here is to look for what is true and grow with that. To look what is there and we can accept and move forward from there. When we see error, we have to becareful what we are saying to address that. To say “I have a problem with this” or “I have a problem with that” or “there’s already divisive statements”, think about the focus of those statements.

I don’t see this to be perfect. I don’t even see this to be something that will be universally agreed upon. For that matter, I don’t see that many people will look at this and say that it’s naive to even attempt.

To the critics, what I want to say, is open your heart to the truth that exists where there is unity, start there, then see where it goes. But if you’re concentration is on the negative, your expression will, no doubt, go down that road.

To those who want to say, this is a lost cause, I want to say don’t give up so soon and look for the diamond in the rough, look for that one point where there is unity and put your efforts of expression there.

The idea here is simple, however, the application of this idea appears difficult for people of today’s society. Or is it?
 
Let’s Keep this going.

The unity I see possible though, I think, is a different type. There can be a unity of wanting to spread God’s Word as opposed to proving ourselves or our religion as the end all be all. I can see a possibilty of seeking Truth over our own version of it.

My belief? Catholicism has the fullness of knowledge. If I didn’t, I wouldn’t be Catholic.
Well, Patrick, the way this old girl sees it is, the more Catholics evangelize the full Truth of Christ’s revelatation on this side of eternity the less time our separated brethren will have to spend getting it right in the pruifying state on the other side before moving on to Glory! Peace, Carlan
 
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