I think a better wording might be that we have different perceptions and insights of truth at different times in our journey. But the fact remains that the truth which we strive to perceive never changes. We might have a different view of the mountain we are climbing depending upon where we are at a specific point, but the mountain never changes. Would you agree?
I like what you are saying. But the problem is I have to either pick you or Jesus. As much as I like you …Jesus wins.
The bible says the Church is the Pilar of all truth. Now you say human can only thrive for the truth.
The bible says the church is the Pilar.
So do I go to the Church as the bible teaches and receive it, or only thrive for it.
Christ and is Church!!
I’m glad you don’t pick me, I don’t pick me either 
I also pick Jesus…You are aware that the Church, of which you claim to be a member, proclaimed that 1 Timothy is the inerrant word of God, are you not? Do you believe we can discard all but the very words of Jesus in the New Testament? Now I doubt you will answer me as you have ignored all of my posts on this thread, but you should really learn what your own Church teaches before making statements like that.
Where does Jesus say that the church is the pilar? Did you mean 1 Timothy 3:15? That would be St Paul who says that…
I am sorry, I’m thinking maybe we should start a new thread as I don’t want to take the blame again for sidetracking this one.
We are speaking of Truth, whether or not it is relative and where that truth can be found. This is very much on topic as concerns any New Age sect. When you imply that unless Jesus specifically said that “The Church is the pillar and foundation of truth” then it is not so and also imply that we can ignore the words of St. Paul then you are giving a false impression of Catholic teaching that needs to be corrected.
If you differ from the Roman Catholic Church on issues of objective Truth then you cannot call yourself Catholic and remain logically consistent. I don’t mean to be mean, but there’s no subtle way of putting it.
My dear frind, that IS THEE point.
I’'ll add to the WISE WORDS of Steve
I think it is great that you are 16 and are interested in matters of faith. Let me start by saying that there is some truth in all religions…if that wasn’t so…good people would not be drawn to them. The question remains that there can only be One Truth. If there is more than one truth, then that idea contradicts itself. So the question is “what is truth?”Hi! Let me just say something about myself religiously and as a person. I’m 16 years old, and have grown up in a religion called “Unity” all my life. It’s so normal to me, that I forget how different it is compared to my friends’ other Christian religions (Unity IS a branch of Christianity, by the way). I was told once that my religion is a “cult”. I was kind of surprised and laughed a little. That had never crossed my mind. Me, as a person, I’m very open-minded. My friends come from all different backgrounds, religiously, ethically, and personality wise. So believe me when I say that I truly am open to opinions and beliefs. I’m super curious. :3 but please keep in mind, like any person, I can get offended or defensive when people are really mean. I don’t mind if people disagree, agree, and discuss like a person with proper etiquette would do in person.
Anyway, for those of you who don’t fully understand/know what Unity is, I shall explain:
Unity works off the basis of the 5 Principles of Unity. Our worship services have lots of music and revolve around a ‘lesson for the week’ or just a lesson. Ministers are female or male. Prayer and affirmative prayer is very important, as it is a part of thought, and we create our life experiences through our thinking. We believe the paradigm, or way of thought/life, is very powerful as it shapes your life. Spirituality can improve your life. If you are in Y.O.U.(Youth of Unity), which are the high school kids, have their regional events youth lead (At least in the Pacific NW region where I’m from).
Unity can co-exist with pretty much any religion. There aren’t too many set rules, mostly guidelines. For example, in my specific chapel we use the Prayer for Protection(which I say every night to my bunnies), the Lord’s Prayer(obviously Christian), and “Namaste”(Hinduism). We mix different aspects and/or practices from other religions into our own. Unity is quite flexible.
“God is Spirit, the loving source of all that is. God is the one power, all good, everywhere present, all wisdom. God is divine energy, continually creating, expressing and sustaining all creation. In God, we live and move and have our being. In Unity, some other ways we speak of God are Life, Light, Love, Substance, Principle, Law and Universal Mind.”
Anyway, the reason why I’m writing all this is:
christianity.about.com/od/Unity/a/Unity-Beliefs.htm
- I found a thread earlier that stated it’s opinion in a way that offended me just a little because of the wording and slight ignorance (I forgot if it was this site or another one)
- To inform people a breif overview of what Unity is and what it means to me
- To see other peoples’ thoughts on Unity. Whether this thread is the first time you’ve heard of this religion, or if you’ve heard of it and think it’s weird (it’s okay, you’re not the only I xD ), I’m curious on what you had previously thought of Unity before, and what you think of it after reading this.
christianity.about.com/od/Unity/a/Unity-Church.htm
unity.org/about-us/our-philosophy
lalalamagicbeanslalala.tumblr.com/post/56862734366/expression-connection (My post after one of the Y.O.U. Events. Unity/y.o.u. Is one of the most important things in my life.
Yes, that is the pont!My dear frind, that IS THEE point.
The truth you calim “is mine” is THAT of the RCC; the ONLY provalbe truth that FULLY shares what Christ taught, desires, commnads and mandates.
I’m a resonable guy, if you choose to believe something other than what I share; PLEASE provide the evidence of your position. That is a common practice for me.
God Bless you!
Patrick [PJM}
I offered you to PM me if you’d like to talk to me about the “truth”. I would much rather learn more about the Unity Church in this thread.
BY GOLLY=ProdglArchitect;11314129]It’s almost as if he thought this stuff was important…
YOU MAY BE ON TO SOMETHING THERE:thumbsup:Well that seems to either not be working or it has been shut down by the Mods. Now, would you answer my questions?
Sorry, I can’t find the thread either…I’m wondering if I may have opened it in the wrong section…
Jesus said: “I am …the truth…”
Absolutely! And our faith is in the Truth who is Jesus Christ.
And why would he? He, better than most, knew who the Truth is.
As you have so truly stated, Jesus is the Truth. And what did Jesus do? He started a Church. And to this Church he gave extraordinary power and authority, in fact, his own authority; what the Church bound on earth would be bound in heaven and what the Church loosed on earth would be loosed in heaven. As Jesus was sent by the Father, the Church is now sent by Jesus. And then he made a promise to this Church. That he would remain with it until the end of time and would send the Holy Spirit to guide it into all truth. The Church would guard and defend the deposit of faith given to it by the Apostles with divine protection.
Yes, Jesus works through his church (churches) and yes, He founded his church that now has many denominations as these churches all stem from the same source, the church Jesus has started.Absolutely! And our faith is in the Truth who is Jesus Christ.
And why would he? He, better than most, knew who the Truth is.
As you have so truly stated, Jesus is the Truth. And what did Jesus do? He started a Church. And to this Church he gave extraordinary power and authority, in fact, his own authority; what the Church bound on earth would be bound in heaven and what the Church loosed on earth would be loosed in heaven. As Jesus was sent by the Father, the Church is now sent by Jesus. And then he made a promise to this Church. That he would remain with it until the end of time and would send the Holy Spirit to guide it into all truth. The Church would guard and defend the deposit of faith given to it by the Apostles with divine protection.
The Church is Christ’s (Truth’s) presence on earth. When we run to the Church we are running to Christ and therefore to the Truth. They are inseparable. Christ’s mission on earth is the union of man with God. This union is found in the Church, most especially in the sacraments. The Church is truly the pillar and foundation of Truth and the means of salvation. And all because of Christ who is the Truth.
