We have that here in California for Workers Comp. It operates autonomously and provides some of the best Workers Comp coverage around. It’s called SCIF and most employers want to use it because it has low rates and excellent service. You know…no massive overhead for advertising, to pay shareholders or to give the CEO billions of dollars in stock options and other benefits.
Funny thing…my wait to see my primary care physician was 2 weeks (diabetes checkup) but once I had major foot pain, it was the next day.
So, the Canadian system is a failure eh? Care to back that claim up, other than saying ’ Canadians go to American Hospitals all the time’.
Yes, the Canadian Universal Health care system has it’s problems, it is far from perfect, but it does work and every single person in the country has equal access to tax funded health care.
To dismiss the Canadian Health Care system as a complete failure is quite simply wrong.
Lets try and refrain from making such wide sweeping claims about things that we know nothing about.
I’m not on these forums to BS anyone…that is simply not true. I know for a fact that that is not true, as I knew a man in his late 60’s who needed regular dialysis.
Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Weiner (Savage), FAUXNews, etc.I’m not on these forums to BS anyone…that is simply not true. I know for a fact that that is not true, as I knew a man in his late 60’s who needed regular dialysis.
I would really like you to please cite your source of this information.
Not only did I know of a man in his late 60’s who had regular dialysis…but I have also never ever heard of this…
I should also add that I have a friend who is a nurse in a hospitals dialysis unit…
You’re only saying that because you’ve let your mindset be polluted by simplistic, PROTESTANT either/or style thinking.
What’s a “neocon?”
It’s due to repetition. Once something is repeated enough, it is believed without question. Right-wingers hear Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage-Weiner, FAUXNews, et al, repeat the same talking points all day long and no actual critical thinking takes place, only a repetition that leads to unquestioning belief.
You’re only saying that because you’ve let your mindset be polluted by simplistic, PROTESTANT either/or style thinking.
Trying to get evidence from right wingers on these things is futile, because, ultimately their strong dislike of socialized medicine has nothing to do with what does or doesn’t work. Thus they’re likely to say anything to back up their arguments.I’m not on these forums to BS anyone…that is simply not true. I know for a fact that that is not true, as I knew a man in his late 60’s who needed regular dialysis.
I would really like you to please cite your source of this information.
Not only did I know of a man in his late 60’s who had regular dialysis…but I have also never ever heard of this…
I should also add that I have a friend who is a nurse in a hospitals dialysis unit…
I noticed that your post is laced with anecdotes that you want us to count as fact.
On the Canadian system:
Good one Vern, I heard a radio program and ( fill in the blanks).I noticed that your post is laced with anecdotes that you want us to count as fact.
The kidney dialysis issue is from England, not Canada. It is based on a Walter Williams radio show. Williams had set up calls with officials in various countries to talk about socialized medicine.
At the time, England did cut off dialysis for persons over 54. What shocked me was this dialog:
Williams: “So when a person reaches 54, you just tell him the government has decided it’s too expensive to keep him alive, and has decided to let him die?”
English official (in a shocked tone); “No! We would never do that. We tell him, ‘Medical science holds no hope for you.’”
In other words, they not only let him die to save money, they lied to him, to discourage him from seeking medical care elsewhere.
The conversation with the Canadian official was also interesting – it hinged around a man who needed a CAT scan, but couldn’t get one because the money for CAT scans had run out for the year. The same man had a dog, and the vet prescribed a CAT scan for the dog – and it was done at the hospital, on the idle CAT machine that the man could not use!!
The Canadian official proudly said the problem had been solved. It was now illegal to give dogs CAT scans in hospitals.
Longer wait times, but we still live longer, have a better infant mortality rate, cheaper prescriptions, we have more nurses, you have 0.2 more doctors per thousand people, the World Health Organization ranks us 30th best in the world, the USA at 37th, spend less money and every single citizen has health coverage.
Well, gee, if you get legal marijuana . . .
