Unknowingly participated in an abortion

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I work in a pharmacy and the other day I filled a script for birth control pills. I thought that it was just that until later I found out that the woman who was taking the pills was actually prescribed Plan B by her doctor and, since our pharmacy didn’t have any, the pharmacist filled it with a certain kind of birth control instead (which when u take 3 or 4 at the same time has the same effect as Plan B). My question is, if I ever come across a script for Plan B again, would I be justified in breaking the law in order to stop the woman from getting it? I could just not participate, but it seems to me like I have an opportunity to possibly save the baby’s life and I would be culpable if i didn’t do something. Thanks for the help…
 
You’ll get all sorts of well-meaning replies here, but really I think you ought to take this up with your confessor, and after him, your boss. 😉
 
Listen to Della.

Also, you might tell us which state (and only your state, please) you live in - different states can have different laws about this.

God Bless,
RyanL
 
I also agree with Della. If your state requires a pharmacy to fill those prescriptions, you may need to find another job.

Peace

Tim
 
The problem is that even regular birth control pills prevent implantation, which is a form of abortion. The side effects of original birth control pills were so strong, that the manufactorers had to reduce the hormones, so that the pills now do not always prevent ovulation, but they do prevent implantation.

Not only that, but families who use artificial contraception have a 30-50% divorce rate. Families who use natural family planning have less than a 3% divorce rate.

Birth control pills are BAD all over.

Start your own pharmacy where you won’t have to listen to others.
 
The problem is that even regular birth control pills prevent implantation, which is a form of abortion. The side effects of original birth control pills were so strong, that the manufactorers had to reduce the hormones, so that the pills now do not always prevent ovulation, but they do prevent implantation.
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Not only that, but families who use artificial contraception have a 30-50% divorce rate. Families who use natural family planning have less than a 3% divorce rate.
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Birth control pills are BAD all over.
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Start your own pharmacy where you won’t have to listen to others.
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The problem is that many women are on birth control pills for other reasons than birth control. A lot of women use it for acne and for mesistral problems, since I don’t know what they are using it for, I don’t really have a problem with filling those…
 
As of right now in Ohio you are not breaking the law by refusing to fill the perscription. You can’t be fired either b/c it would be an violation of your religious rights. Please contact your state rep. and ask him/her to support HB 469 to make sure it stays that way.
 
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Lorik:
As of right now in Ohio you are not breaking the law by refusing to fill the perscription. You can’t be fired either b/c it would be an violation of your religious rights. Please contact your state rep. and ask him/her to support HB 469 to make sure it stays that way.
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I have a feeling, without being in Ohio, that you can only not fulfill it if it harms the recipient, and it doesn’t count under religious rights if it is infringing on the rights of others.

Someone else will fill it anyway, unless you’re the only pharmacist that works there. And even then she’ll just go somewhere else.
 
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dcdurel:
The problem is that even regular birth control pills prevent implantation, which is a form of abortion.
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that is at best, a scientific theory. no one has definitively demonstrated that this actually occurs. they are able to measure the thickness of the uterus lining, which does increase, but no one has actually demonstrated that the pill prevents implantation.

women are pregnant 3-7 times more than they actually know about. usually, sperm with fewer chromosomes, which makes them lighter and faster, can fertilize the egg more quickly. since the chromosomes cannot line up properly, the egg is expelled before it even implants. There is no positive way to know if a failed implantation is the result of natural causes or the pill, for a women taking birth control. there is simply no way to definitively demonstrate it, as of yet. so your statement is conjecture.
 
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St.BJLabre:
…would I be justified in breaking the law in order to stop the woman from getting it? I could just not participate, but it seems to me like I have an opportunity to possibly save the baby’s life and I would be culpable if i didn’t do something. Thanks for the help…
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you MAY NOT stop a woman from getting her script. a pharmacist tried this in texas i believe, and the woman went and got the police. he was charged with theft and harassment. your best option is to just refer it to another pharmacist. if you try to interefere in any way with a woman obtaining a prescription, you are breaking a few laws, as well as overextending your scope of practice as a pharmacist. an MD is the one qualified to determine if a person needs medication, and a pharmacist is supposed to ensure the correct dose, type, route, and no interactions are satisfied.
 
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dcdurel:
Not only that, but families who use artificial contraception have a 30-50% divorce rate. Families who use natural family planning have less than a 3% divorce rate.
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And families that pray together have only a 0.2 percent divorce rate.

Owning ones own pharmacy is no solution. Wal Mart was recently required to stock plan B in all its pharmacies.
 
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dcdurel:
Not only that, but families who use artificial contraception have a 30-50% divorce rate. Families who use natural family planning have less than a 3% divorce rate.
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I don’t think we can blame this on the birth control pills. The 30-50% divorce rate among ABC users are in line with the 50% divorce rate in America. The NFP method is more likely an indicator that the couple are devout Catholics and would not get a divorce due to Church teaching and not the reason the couples are staying together.
 
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CrossoverManiac:
I don’t think we can blame this on the birth control pills. The 30-50% divorce rate among ABC users are in line with the 50% divorce rate in America. The NFP method is more likely an indicator that the couple are devout Catholics and would not get a divorce due to Church teaching and not the reason the couples are staying together.
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I believe that your opinion holds a lot of truth. Those who avoid ABC, those who have not co-habited before marriage and the like have a stronger belief in certain moral standards which drives the lower divorce rate, i.e. they believe that divorce is very wrong and as a result are more inclined to tough out the rough times in their marriage. NFP and the like are artifacts of their beliefs and not the cause of the lower rate of divorce. I can still recall the days when some priests would councel women to stay in the most abusive of marriages and we accepted that that was their lot in life and they needed to accept it.
 
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rwoehmke:
I can still recall the days when some priests would councel women to stay in the most abusive of marriages and we accepted that that was their lot in life and they needed to accept it.
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Didn’t those women have the option of being separated from their husbands? I thought that, so long as they weren’t divorced, they could at least live separately.
 
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BioCatholic:
that is at best, a scientific theory. no one has definitively demonstrated that this actually occurs. they are able to measure the thickness of the uterus lining, which does increase, but no one has actually demonstrated that the pill prevents implantation.

women are pregnant 3-7 times more than they actually know about. usually, sperm with fewer chromosomes, which makes them lighter and faster, can fertilize the egg more quickly. since the chromosomes cannot line up properly, the egg is expelled before it even implants. There is no positive way to know if a failed implantation is the result of natural causes or the pill, for a women taking birth control. there is simply no way to definitively demonstrate it, as of yet. so your statement is conjecture.
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Then why are the drug companies listing a “theory” as one of the modes of the pills ability to prevent pregnancy?
 
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CrossoverManiac:
Didn’t those women have the option of being separated from their husbands? I thought that, so long as they weren’t divorced, they could at least live separately.
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They could even be divorced. It was, and is, re-marriage while the spouse is still living that is forbidden.
 
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Liberalsaved:
I have a feeling, without being in Ohio, that you can only not fulfill it if it harms the recipient, and it doesn’t count under religious rights if it is infringing on the rights of others.

Someone else will fill it anyway, unless you’re the only pharmacist that works there. And even then she’ll just go somewhere else.
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True, but that’s not an argument which German guards in the concentration camps could get away with. Should we?
 
St.BJLabre,

I’m going to be frank because I’m concerned for your soul. You MUST find another line of work. Trust in God. He will not punish you for striving for holiness. Nothing is worth having the stain of cooperating with an abortion on your soul. It is an excommunicable offense.

Oral contraceptives can indeed cause abortions by not allowing the newly-formed baby attach to the mother’s uterus. The new life is then flushed out. This is as much of an abortion as one performed at 7 months-- they both murder an innocent human life and cry out to God for justice. And while “the pill” may be used by some women for acne problems, do you really want to live with the tought that you could be helping them literally kill their children in utero? Most likely, the majority of the birth controll pill scripts you fill are not for acne. So you’re cooperating with an abortion by dispensing them. And selling condoms and other barrier methods is also cooperation with an intrinsic evil. It was once a noble practice to be a pharmacist, but in today’s culture of death, there are simply too many ways in which a pharmacist is asked to cooperate with evils like contraception and abortion. Get out of that job-- for your soul’s sake.

You need to meet with a priest-- a good, solid, orthodox priest-- and see if you have incurred excommunication. He can lift that through sacramental absolution. Don’t despair. Trust in God’s mercy. I will be praying for you.
 
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