Unusual question

[EvelynEVF]

Charity does not require us to let people take advantage of us. Quite the contrary.

In college it is not uncommon for certain people to let it be known of themselves that they are just too cool to go to class, and they would prefer to take a free ride on someone else’s effort.

 

[chevalier]

Kage, if I wanted to be selfish, I wouldn’t skip an opportunity to earn a big favour by just allowing someone to borrow my notes, copy and bring back the following day with no effort or money spent on my part. If it were only about how things make me feel, I would give it too because I do feel that way. However, it’s true that we shouldn’t help create a system that profits those who are smarter than working.

If someone honestly told me, “Dood, I really couldn’t stand the whole 2 hours in Prof. X’s class. I would die there,” I would give him the notes. Or if he in some way admitted to having a shortcoming in regard of coming to class, getting the chores done etc. I would give them to anyone able to be referred to as a slacker *if *he promised at least to think about actually attending etc. But I wouldn’t like to do anything which would denigrate the importance of actually going to class, such as being a gateway to go around the system.

Definitely wouldn’t give notes to anyone who thought he were so smart that he would use me (in some cases you can sense it). Unless with a lecture attached. Yeah, could do that.

 

[kage_ar]

So, what you are telling me is that one does not have to study or attend class to get a degree. One simply pays the tuition then gets a copy of the notes, they then pass the class and get a diploma.

What does this say about the school

 

[stringbeanduck]

I guess this is why it is called the “me” generation.

How on earth is it any skin off your back if you photocopy the notes and give them to the guy? I am really shocked at the responses here.

Let me see, if your neighbor comes over some morning and asks if they can borrow two eggs and a cup of flour to make breakfast, bet you lecture them on how they should have been responsible enough to go to the store and slam the door on them…

Oh my gosh! Do you not understand what we are saying? If the person is asking out of greed and selfishness, no. If they are humble and kindly would like some help, yes. Not only would I give them my notes, but I’d help them study too, if my time permits. However, I don’t know what prudent person would just hand out thier notes to anybody without first understanding that person’s motive. I would never bust my bottom working hard to study for a class and then give my notes to somebody looking for a free ride.

 

[Spirithound]

I guess this is why it is called the “me” generation.

How on earth is it any skin off your back if you photocopy the notes and give them to the guy? I am really shocked at the responses here.

Let me see, if your neighbor comes over some morning and asks if they can borrow two eggs and a cup of flour to make breakfast, bet you lecture them on how they should have been responsible enough to go to the store and slam the door on them…

So, what you are telling me is that one does not have to study or attend class to get a degree. One simply pays the tuition then gets a copy of the notes, they then pass the class and get a diploma.

What does this say about the school

Kage, you’re playing both sides of the fence here! What are you saying?

 

[chevalier]

So, what you are telling me is that one does not have to study or attend class to get a degree. One simply pays the tuition then gets a copy of the notes, they then pass the class and get a diploma.

What does this say about the school

I’m afraid I’ve lost you.

Anyway, notes aren’t everything. Between attending and getting a degree, there are exams to take and those who don’t want to learn will typically not pass the exam unless they’re very smart. Which means they’re lazy but they’ll bring results when they start working in their field. Giving someone the notes is not the end of the world. However, offering others students an easy alternative to attending could constitute undermining the system. Basically, my point is that we should help people but we shouldn’t reinforce smart***es in their attitudes. As long as people ask politely and don’t act like they’re better than the nerds and the notes aren’t proof of attendance, it’s more or less fine. But what were you meaning to say anyway?

Kage, you’re playing both sides of the fence here! What are you saying?

Kage is pulling a chev on me.

 

[kage_ar]

Kage, you’re playing both sides of the fence here! What are you saying?

Not at all.

Out of common courtesy I will share any notes I ever take on anything with any person who asks. Sharing does not diminish my grade or how hard I studied, it is simply a nice thing to do for another human being. That is kindness, that is charity.

Some have screeched “I worked so hard at the class. Why would I work hard and then let this lazy bum read my notes and pass the class while being a lazy bum”. I am shocked that the prevailing thought is all it takes is a set of borrowed notes to pass a class.

This really DOES have me shaking my head.

The young people here really think that someone could be undeserving of borrowing notes? It seems the most selfish thing I have ever heard of.

 

[EvelynEVF]

So, what you are telling me is that one does not have to study or attend class to get a degree. One simply pays the tuition then gets a copy of the notes, they then pass the class and get a diploma.

What does this say about the school

Well, they would at least have to study the notes they scammed.

 

[stringbeanduck]

Not at all.

Out of common courtesy I will share any notes I ever take on anything with any person who asks. Sharing does not diminish my grade or how hard I studied, it is simply a nice thing to do for another human being. That is kindness, that is charity.

Some have screeched “I worked so hard at the class. Why would I work hard and then let this lazy bum read my notes and pass the class while being a lazy bum”. I am shocked that the prevailing thought is all it takes is a set of borrowed notes to pass a class.

This really DOES have me shaking my head.

The young people here really think that someone could be undeserving of borrowing notes? It seems the most selfish thing I have ever heard of.

No. It seems ridiculous that some people would share their notes with a person who simply cares about themselves thinks that their greed and slothfulness is the way to pass a class. To me that would be co operation to that person’s selfish/greedy/slothful habit. Charity has its place, but so does prudence.

2nd I suspect you are well aware of abortion? To me that sounds exponentially more selfish than a person who won’t share their notes with sloth and thus not feed their sinful habit.

 

[kage_ar]

No. It seems ridiculous that some people would share their notes with a person who simply cares about themselves thinks that their greed and slothfulness is the way to pass a class. To me that would be co operation to that person’s selfish/greedy/slothful habit. Charity has its place, but so does prudence.

2nd I suspect you are well aware of abortion? To me that sounds exponentially more selfish than a person who won’t share their notes with sloth and thus not feed their sinful habit.

To do good for those who do not “deserve” it is what Jesus Christ and His Church calls each of us to do, He did this by HIS example - Jesus was tortured, shed his blood and died for all of us and not a one of us “deserve” it.

Yesterday, 12 families came to me asking for assistance (food, clothes, money to pay bills). What kind of Christian would I be if I had a big table of food or a closet full of clothes or a pocket full of money and I did not share - “They do not deserve it”.

Honestly, I am thrilled my son has not chosen the “university” if it turns out this kind of selfish attitude in young people.

 

[stringbeanduck]

To do good for those who do not “deserve” it is what Jesus Christ and His Church calls each of us to do, He did this by HIS example - Jesus was tortured, shed his blood and died for all of us and not a one of us “deserve” it.

Yesterday, 12 families came to me asking for assistance (food, clothes, money to pay bills). What kind of Christian would I be if I had a big table of food or a closet full of clothes or a pocket full of money and I did not share - “They do not deserve it”.

Honestly, I am thrilled my son has not chosen the “university” if it turns out this kind of selfish attitude in young people.

Chances are those 12 families were humble/not looking for a free ride and you know it. I would not only give them food and assistance, but I would eat with them aswell and ask them thier story too. Jesus’s death in no way fed the slothful/greedy habit of the world. It was an act of Love for everyone. This in no way relates to Christ’s death. Giving notes to a sloth is only going to feed his habit of procrastinating and then at the last minute asking for notes to help pass the course. Your basically saying it’s okay to take free rides in life. You know part of college for many people is growing up, not just passing a course. But I don’t about your generation or my generation, however, I do know I’m glad I was raised to be prudent and give charity to those who need it and not sloths.