Update on dissent: Dan Maguire

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To those who remember or are acquainted with Daniel Maguire, a former Catholic priest and longtime Professor of Moral Theology at Marquette University in Milwaukee, who is upset that Cardinal Ratzinger is the new Pope. NOR today carried an update about Dan’s life. His son is now a Muslim The author of the story, Jim Stingl, interviewed Maguire in his home.

Stingl says: “He’s made news with his pro-choice views on abortion and assisted suicide, support for same-sex marriage and ordination of women…. Maguire said he doesn’t believe Jesus died for our sins….” What caught Stingl’s attention was a photo on the wall of then-Cardinal Ratzinger with Daniel’s son, Tom, in 1986 at the Vatican. Cardinal Ratzinger happened to be passing by, and Daniel asked Cardinal Ratzinger if he could snap a photo of him with Tom. The Cardinal obliged.

The new pope looks down on Daniel Maguire from a photo on the wall at his east side home.

People often display images of their heroes. That’s not what’s happening here.

Standing next to Joseph Ratzinger, then a cardinal, is Maguire’s son, Tom. He’s wearing a Milwaukee Brewers shirt and holding chocolate he happened to be eating at the moment of the encounter in St. Peter’s Square in 1986.

You may already know that Daniel Maguire is a former Catholic priest and a longtime professor of moral theology at Marquette University.

He’s made news with his pro-choice views on abortion and assisted suicide, support for same-sex marriage and ordination of women, encouragement of free thinking, and disdain for the religious right.

Thanks to tenure, he has survived attempts over the years to oust him from Marquette…"

"…Maguire loves telling the story about meeting Ratzinger. He and Tom - who is now 29 and a Muslim who is raising a family and studying in Cairo - had just seen the pope in the square. Suddenly there was Ratzinger.

Maguire asked if he could snap a photo of him with Tom. “But of course,” Ratzinger replied in English. Then he asked Maguire if he was enjoying his pilgrimage to Rome.

“Oh, yes,” Maguire responded, “especially because I’m a Catholic theologian.”

The smile ran from Ratzinger’s face. Considering this layperson in front of him, he asked, “A theologian?”

“Yes, my name is Daniel Maguire.”

“What?!” Ratzinger sputtered. “You are Daniel Maguire?” He glared at Maguire, possibly recalling the name from the high-profile effort Maguire led with another priest to get Catholics to ignore the 1968 encyclical from Pope Paul VI condemning the use of birth control.

“This is my son, Tom, who is named for Thomas Aquinas,” Maguire said.

Ratzinger said, “Maybe someday he will be as great a theologian as Thomas Aquinas.”

“Could be,” Maguire shot back. “He’s already beginning to ask some great questions.”

Maguire later sent a copy of the photo to Cardinal Ratzinger, which he figures has been in “his file” in Rome for years now. He enclosed a note thanking Ratzinger for helping to hammer out the reforms of the Second Vatican Council before taking such a sharp right turn in his views. And he offered to get together some time to kick around some ideas on theology.

No reply ever came.

We sat in Maguire’s living room as he told this story. I noticed a wilted Easter lily but not a single religious image or crucifix. Maguire said he doesn’t believe Jesus died for our sins and called it heresy that makes God look like a sadistic monster. Jesus died for standing up to the unjust and exploitative Roman Empire, he said.

“That’s drama enough for me,” he said.

jsonline.com/news/metro/apr05/320665.asp
 
**Sheesh!😛 Unbelievable!:nope: **

Can you imagine the irony, a Catholic theologian who never was truly Catholic, and not even Christian as it would seem. And to top it all off, he actually knew the present Pope, go figure…:confused:

With all the conflicting messages his son was recieving in the Church, it is no suprise he would convert to Islam, thanks in no small part to his father.

Quite simply, it is time to break out the inquisition on guys like this, and give them the boot they deserve. And I am also not suprised in the least he was never ousted from Marquette, guess who was the ordinary in Milwaukee for all this time (Abp. Rembert Weakland :mad: )…
“That’s drama enough for me,” he said.
That about explains it all in a nutshell…:rolleyes:
 
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**Sheesh!😛 Unbelievable!:nope: **

Can you imagine the irony, a Catholic theologian who never was truly Catholic, and not even Christian as it would seem. And to top it all off, he actually knew the present Pope, go figure…:confused:

. . .

Guess you could say the same for Judas. 😉
 
Convert to islam, nor evangelism neither buddhism, very sad to see. Resignation.
 
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Convert to islam, nor evangelism neither buddhism, very sad to see. Resignation.
Lately I have been so despondent that I have been looking over our very large congregation and wondering if it would be best if we split up our parishes into Orthodox Catholic churches and Heterodox Catholic churches. The way Judaism is split up into (at least) Orthodox, Conservative, Reform. Technically, I suppose that would be Schism. What part of Schism do the bishops not understand? Really, we are already a Schismatic Church.

At least, knowing that I am going to an Orthodox parish I would begin to feel welcomed into a community. At present, I feel welcome nowhere. As soon as I enter the cathedral doors I can feel my body going tense. I usually relax during the homily and then I am really relaxed when the Hosannas start. After Mass, I tense up again walking past the priests.
 
Ani Ibi:
Lately I have been so despondent that I have been looking over our very large congregation and wondering if it would be best if we split up our parishes into Orthodox Catholic churches and Heterodox Catholic churches. The way Judaism is split up into (at least) Orthodox, Conservative, Reform. Technically, I suppose that would be Schism. What part of Schism do the bishops not understand? Really, we are already a Schismatic Church.

At least, knowing that I am going to an Orthodox parish I would begin to feel welcomed into a community. At present, I feel welcome nowhere. As soon as I enter the cathedral doors I can feel my body going tense. I usually relax during the homily and then I am really relaxed when the Hosannas start. After Mass, I tense up again walking past the priests.
I understand where you are coming from. After decades in (and one out) of the Church, I decided to follow the Eucharist and stay in the Catholic Church. We moved to a rural area 3 years ago and my son is very disapointed in the parishes here. None are anywhere near as respectful to the Eucharist as the one we came from. There are constant fights with the priest over stupid things that the laity think they have a right to be in charge of.
 
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