Update on my family nightmare

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Thank you all for your prayers. I brought my son to get a full physical and he tested positive for HIV. He is in despair. I pray for him daily. He will not stop being promiscuous because he believes that their is no longer a point as he can “hook up with other HIV positive gay men.” My husband has taken this as a sign that he can divorce me and get a SSPX annulment because I do not hold to Catholic teachings as he sees them in his SSPX cult. He is already dating an SSPX girl. I kicked him out of my house. He is scum. I hate the SSPX and all it has done to my family. Please continue to pray for me.
 
SSPX is not in communion with Rome and you are right ! It is a cult. The pope is guided by the Holy Spirit. For 2000 years, the Holy Spirit has guided all the pope in this ONE; HOLY; CATHOLIC, APOSTOLIC CHURCH.

Is you husband angry about your son being gay? Our church teaches never hate anyone. All people are chldren of God regardless whether they have homosexual tendencies. The Church teaches that each person deserves dignity and respect. That includes your son. This does not mean you should approve of his lifestyle choices. Make it clear to your son you are not in agreement with his choices BUT whatever he does, you will always be his mother and your love for him is and will always be unconditional.
 
Please look for the book " The Way " by Saint Josemaria Escriva. It is an easy to read book full of knowledge and wisdom on how we should look and live life. Maybe you cna give it to your son.
 
jp2thegr8t said:
Thank you all for your prayers. I brought my son to get a full physical and he tested positive for HIV. He is in despair. I pray for him daily. He will not stop being promiscuous because he believes that their is no longer a point as he can “hook up with other HIV positive gay men.” My husband has taken this as a sign that he can divorce me and get a SSPX annulment because I do not hold to Catholic teachings as he sees them in his SSPX cult. He is already dating an SSPX girl. I kicked him out of my house. He is scum. I hate the SSPX and all it has done to my family. Please continue to pray for me.
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Praying for your son’s health & recovery. Praying to the Holy Spirit to give him guidance & direction in his time of need. Praying for your intentions.
 
Facts please. This doesn’t sound right at all.

The SSPX doesn’t hand out annullments like described. If anything, they’re far more stringent than the actual catholic church in defining defects in consent.

It would help if you named the SSPX chapel, location and priest. People aren’t going to buy the story without some corroborating facts. Something is very fishy here.
 
It really does not matter if he get a so called annulment from his so called church. SSPX is like protestantism. It is a breakaway from the Apostolic Church. They do not believe that the pope is guided by the Holy Spirit, and just like any protestant denomination who separated themselves…SSPX also have subdivided among themselves due to the fact that it is not guided by the Holy Spirit.

All of the SSPX activies are illegitemate and are not from the Catholic Church. They may have the appearance of a traditional mass or the tridentine mass which is also practiced by the Catholic Church, but isnt Satan the greates deceiver of all times.

Please be there for your son. Your son needs you. He does not need condemnation for being a homosexual and leading a sinful lifestyle. You are his mother and your love should be unconditional.
 
SSPX defenders, don’t bite on this thread. SSPX critics, please refrain from generalizing about a large group of people based on one suspiciously uncharacteristic account.

Let’s see if the OP will offer up some supporting facts. No names of the family, please. But please do name the SSPX chapel involved.
 
That is according to her husband. That is what her husband is telling her. Her husband might be just telling her that to get away with the fact that he is involved with another woman.
 
and with regards to the SSPX…it is not generalizing…it is indeed a fact that it is not Catholic. It is not in communion with Rome and does not believe that the Holy Spirit has guided the pope. In other words they do not believe Jesus telling Peter that He is Rock …and on this rock I shal build my Church and the gates of hell SHALL NOT prevail.
 
Mayita, I know you’re upset about your son and husband, and I will pray for you and your intentions.

But most of what you have ranted about the SSPX is not true. These are your private, personal opinions that don’t align with reality. The SSPX most certainly accepts the Pope, prays for him at each Mass, and is not outside the Catholic Church. Please stop perpetuating this lie. They are Catholic too. I’m sorry you haven’t had a good experience with them, but don’t let your emotions lead to calumny.
 
I think EWTN is a reliable source

ewtn.com/expert/answers/sspx_fssp.htm

In 1989, Archbishop Lefebvre, fearing that he would soon die and leave no one to ordain priests for the SSPX, sought an agreement with the Holy See for the lawful continuation of the Society. After first reaching one, with Cardinal Ratzinger acting for the Pope,** Lefebvre reversed himself, and in an act which was schismatic ordained 4 bishops without a papal mandate and incurred an automatic excommunication, confirmed a few days later by Decree of the Holy See. **

In these circumstances, some number of seminarians at Ecône and priests of the SSPX, not wanted to go into schism, sought an agreement with Rome, which concluded with the founding of the Priestly (Sacerdotal) Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP). This immediate erection of the Fraternity by the Holy See, without all the preliminaries of time and formality usually required of time, was a tremendous charity by the Pope toward the former members of the SSPX, who have returned it with loyalty and faithfulness, as well as the devotion to the Tridentine rites which is their proper charism. (The Fraternity, therefore, celebrates the Mass according to the Missal of 1962.) On the other hand, the SSPX has gotten more strident over time, harboring sedevacantists and others with positions more extreme than Archbishop Lefebvre would have tolerated.
 
SSPX is not a licit forum for Catholicism. I pray they return to the fold but for now the best advice is to avoid SSPX completely. I am not sure the best approach is to declare it a cult but it is certainly its own strain of protestantism.
 
manualman said:
SSPX defenders, don’t bite on this thread. SSPX critics, please refrain from generalizing about a large group of people based on one suspiciously uncharacteristic account.

Let’s see if the OP will offer up some supporting facts. No names of the family, please. But please do name the SSPX chapel involved.
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mwncheesehead said:
Mayita, I know you’re upset about your son and husband, and I will pray for you and your intentions.

But most of what you have ranted about the SSPX is not true. These are your private, personal opinions that don’t align with reality. The SSPX most certainly accepts the Pope, prays for him at each Mass, and is not outside the Catholic Church. Please stop perpetuating this lie. They are Catholic too. I’m sorry you haven’t had a good experience with them, but don’t let your emotions lead to calumny.
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Respectfully, the SSPX exercises no valid ministry in the Church. They are in an irregular situation. Faithful Catholics should not be attending an SSPX Mass unless there is absolutely NO other option for Mass, as a general rule.
 
jp2thegr8t said:
Thank you all for your prayers. I brought my son to get a full physical and he tested positive for HIV. He is in despair. I pray for him daily. He will not stop being promiscuous because he believes that their is no longer a point as he can “hook up with other HIV positive gay men.” My husband has taken this as a sign that he can divorce me and get a SSPX annulment because I do not hold to Catholic teachings as he sees them in his SSPX cult. He is already dating an SSPX girl. I kicked him out of my house. He is scum. I hate the SSPX and all it has done to my family. Please continue to pray for me.
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It would appear from this article that there is more to the story:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_situation_of_the_Society_of_St._Pius_X
The Society provides, for the faithful who request it, a review of marriage annulment decrees emanated from diocesan tribunals, since in its view many tribunals have been granting them without sufficient grounds to do so; in this manner, the faithful can acquire a greater degree of moral certitude when an annulment is doubtful. Critics have interpreted this service as a usurping of the authority to dispense from marriage impediments and to declare marriage annulments, which belongs to the ordinary jurisdiction of diocesan bishops, and which would be schismatic in kind. This has led some priests to leave the Society.[31][32]
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It would appear the SSPX position would be that it is the diocese that hand out annulments too casually.

Apart from getting into SSPX positions I think there are bigger issues here than a society that is half in and half out of the Church.
 
I am sorry you are dealing with alot. all on your plate. please advise your son HIV is not a death sentence,more a wake up call and he can be treated with medications. he needs to quit being selfish and think of others.
peace
 
luvbp681 said:
please advise your son HIV is not a death sentence,more a wake up call and he can be treated with medications.
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As a matter of fact, a doctor I know said that it’s better to have HIV than diabetes, because it’s easier to manage.
 
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