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Scutum_Fidei said:
This is from the Pontifical Council for Social Communications: vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/pccs/documents/rc_pc_pccs_doc_20020228_church-internet_en.html

It’s about the use of the internet, but I think it touches on similar themes (I have only skimmed it so far).

There are also a number of articles which quote Vatican spokesmen as saying that the sacrament of confession requires a ‘personal dialogue between penitent and confessor’ (phys.org/news/2011-02-vatican-iphone.html).

I’m sorry if I’m being foolish here, but how is going to confession before mass a sin?
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It isn’t confession before mass, my parents have reasons that they won’t let me go any other time, and unless if in dire straits, it’s only before mass, regardless of sin.
 
That first link (so you don’t have to read the whole thing, which is mostly irrelevant) says at one point:

‘Although the virtual reality of cyberspace cannot substitute for real interpersonal community, the incarnational reality of the sacraments and the liturgy, or the immediate and direct proclamation of the gospel, it can complement them, attract people to a fuller experience of the life of faith, and enrich the religious lives of users. It also provides the Church with a means for communicating with particular groups—young people and young adults, the elderly and home-bound, persons living in remote areas, the members of other religious bodies—who otherwise may be difficult to reach.’

And in the CCC it says (vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P4H.HTM):

‘1484 "Individual, integral confession and absolution remain the only ordinary way for the faithful to reconcile themselves with God and the Church, unless physical or moral impossibility excuses from this kind of confession."94 There are profound reasons for this. Christ is at work in each of the sacraments. He personally addresses every sinner: "My son, your sins are forgiven."95 He is the physician tending each one of the sick who need him to cure them.96 He raises them up and reintegrates them into fraternal communion. ***Personal ***confession is thus the form most expressive of reconciliation with God and with the Church.’ [emphasis added]
 
So to go any other time than before the mass you would need to sin to get a ride because you would be disobeying your parents? Is that what you’re saying?
 
Scutum_Fidei said:
So to go any other time than before the mass you would need to sin to get a ride because you would be disobeying your parents? Is that what you’re saying?
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Maybe they would let me ask my grandparents, but regarding them, confession is before the mass. They have their reasons and I’m not to judge. I’m never going to yell at them to go to confession again they deserve better
 
Upgrade25 said:
Maybe they would let me ask my grandparents, but regarding them, confession is before the mass. They have their reasons and I’m not to judge
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I’m sure if you explain to them that you don’t feel well enough to go to confession in the morning they might take you later in the day, or another day. You should at least try and talk to them, you may be surprised by the result. And it will give you a chance to ask them if you can ask your grandparents to take you.

Otherwise you can call the parish and ask the priest to come and see you. It would still be best to get your parents’ permission though. As you are ill I’m sure he’ll try his best to come and see you.

You could always soldier on through, depending on how severe you think your illness is.

But if none of this works, just obey your parents and wait until they are next willing to take you. Just make a solemn commitment to yourself and God that you will go as soon as you next have an opportunity. From a theological perceptive you are spiritually secure if you do this.
 
I’ve had that exact same thought
And I was the same age last year
It’s so cruel what the devil tempts our minds with
I too am struggling with mortal sin and it is ruining my life
Sometimes I panic like that too

I’m here if you need me and will try to reply to any PMs
I feel like we are on the same plain
I will pray for you buddy I know what’s its like
 

THE SORROWFUL MOTHER***

Memorare

Remember,
O most gracious Virgin Mary,
that never was it known that
anyone who fled to thy protection,
implored thy help, or sought thy
intercession was left unaided.
Inspired by this confidence,
I fly unto thee, O Virgin of virgins,
my mother; to thee do I come,
before thee I stand, sinful and sorrowful.
O Mother of the Word Incarnate,
despise not my petitions, but in thy mercy
hear and answer me.

Amen.
 
As a priest reading through this thread and its posts, I am frankly gobsmocked by the original poster and many of the responses.

Let us be clear:

1.The person who seeks to receive the sacrament of penance is a 14 year old child who has a bad cold.
2. He is impeded from getting to the parish to go to confession because he needs his parents permission and he is not allowed to go on his own, in light of his age…and because he has a cold.

This is my response:
  1. The provision of the sacraments to the sick and the homebound is typically a parish ministry that is team based and that involves coordination of laity, deacons (if available) and the parish priest. The majority of visitations in my diocese are conducted by extraordinary ministers of Communion and the parish priests provide anointing of the sick and confession to those homebound a few times per year on rotation as well as the celebration of Mass in homes for the elderly.
Short of a life or death emergency, that involves either the hospital or a hospice patient, no one should use the parish emergency telephone line to summon a priest on an emergency basis to hear the confession of someone with a cold. To encourage a person to use an emergency system for what is not an emergency is wrong. This is to grossly abuse the emergency contact system that parishes put in place. This is also outside the bounds of common sense. I can assure you that it will not be endearing to the parish priest.

There are patients who are legitimately homebound for a short-term…those recovering from surgery or who have suffered some disability of short-duration…and yes they should be in touch with the parish office. This ministry is not meant to be activated because someone has a cold on a given Sunday; such a person needs to stay home and recover and resume the reception of the sacraments the following week.
  1. If the original poster is not well enough to go to confession at his usual time, he may simply make an act of perfect contrition and go to confession at his next available opportunity…presumably as soon as next week, when his cold will have improved.
  2. To the original poster: I have well understood from what you have written that you have struggles regarding the life of faith and other struggles. I would urge you to seek spiritual counseling, either with or through your parish priest, as the situation you are describing in terms of the level of your fears and your concerns deserve to be competently addressed. You are in need of being helped beyond your evident anguish regarding your anxiety about your spiritual state, over which you are currently suffering.
As for the question about remote reception of the sacraments, no…the sacrament of penance cannot be celebrated via telephone or other mechanism. The theology of the sacrament, and its nature, demands that it be celebrated in a place where both the minister and the penitent are physically collocated.
 
Surely a priest would be willing to go and see a young parishioner at some point over a weekend if he got a call (speaking hypothetically now)? To be clear, I wasn’t advocating calling the emergency line in my last post. Although I suppose it does depend on the parish as to the priest’s willingness, I’m so used to really rather small ones haha
 
I know that our priest is stretched really thin. and weekends especially are full. They have many commitments, and the parishioners aren’t always aware of all of them.
I really hesitated asking our priest to give my husband the Anointing of the Sick, but did because I thought he was in danger of death.
I’m sure the OP will be fine if he goes to confession as soon as he’s well.
Keep in mind that God loves you.
Also, yelling at your parents won’t be helpful ,and will just make you feel bad.

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Viki63 said:
I know that our priest is stretched really thin. and weekends especially are full. They have many commitments, and the parishioners aren’t always aware of all of them.
I really hesitated asking our priest to give my husband the Anointing of the Sick, but did because I thought he was in danger of death.
I’m sure the OP will be fine if he goes to confession as soon as he’s well.
Keep in mind that God loves you.
Also, yelling at your parents won’t be helpful ,and will just make you feel bad.

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That’s my conclusion as well. Priests by nature are very busy, no need to abuse the system because of a cold.
 
Don_Ruggero said:
  1. To the original poster: I have well understood from what you have written that you have struggles regarding the life of faith and other struggles. I would urge you to seek spiritual counseling, either with or through your parish priest, as the situation you are describing in terms of the level of your fears and your concerns deserve to be competently addressed. You are in need of being helped beyond your evident anguish regarding your anxiety about your spiritual state, over which you are currently suffering.
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Thank you Father, for the advice. I and my parents see a priest once a month so as not to overwhelm him.
 
if you are sick with a bad cold - stay home.
watch Mass on tv. say the Act of Contrition.
talk to God. when you are over the cold and feel better, then make an appointment to go to confession or go to a regularly scheduled confession before Mass.
 
Upgrade25 said:
How do I prevent this idea from killing my soul:
“I’m in a state of mortal sin, the Holy Spirit has departed from me, I haven’t been to confession and can’t go right now without causing more sin, I’m going to hell if I die right now anyways, why not commit more mortal sin?”

As well as the idea that this dilemma disproves the Sacrament of Reconciliation and as well proves sola fide?
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please show me where I’m wrong. I’m not thinking of God in temptation, I need to know He won’t condemn me
 
I am back in despair I just sinned again. Does God forgive me, or am I doomed to hell?
 
No.

Speak to your Youth Minister or Priest about your tendency to doubt the Lord’s love and that you believe God is out to get you. He’s not. You committing a habitual sin that you CAN overcome.
This lien of thinking is not healthy, it’s not correct, and it’s only going to get worse unless you begin to deal with this. Avoid mortal sin ( I believe I know which one you speak of) with healthy activities, stay busy. Get out of the house, and pray when you are tempted.

The next opportunity to speak to the priest tell him about your severe anxiety.
We are still int he Easter season. Christ has redeemed us. Rejoice, Repent, and be at peace.
 
Upgrade25 said:
I’m most lilkely damned
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You are not dammed. You are 14 years old under the authority of your parents. You cannot drive yourself to church even if you were well, which you are not. If your parents will not take you to confession or refuse that you go-it is not your fault. If you are sick, God understands and can read your soul that your intention is there, but beyond your control right now.

Obey your parents and do the following:
Say a sincere act of contrition and vow with sincerity also to get there as soon as possible, when you are better and have a way to get there.
 
Upgrade25 said:
I am back in despair I just sinned again. Does God forgive me, or am I doomed to hell?
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You need to have a good heart to heart talk with your priest to help you to move away from a sense of despair and toward a sense of trust in God and His love and mercy.

Saint Paul, who had encountered the Risen Christ on the Road to Damascus, wrote of his own frustration…that what he wanted to do was precisely the thing he could not do – and the very thing he did not want to do was precisely what he did.

The sacraments and the mercy of God are there for us…there is no reason for you to despair.

Again, please talk to your priest about your anguish.
 
pianistclare said:
No.

Speak to your Youth Minister or Priest about your tendency to doubt the Lord’s love and that you believe God is out to get you. He’s not. You committing a habitual sin that you CAN overcome.
This lien of thinking is not healthy, it’s not correct, and it’s only going to get worse unless you begin to deal with this. Avoid mortal sin ( I believe I know which one you speak of) with healthy activities, stay busy. Get out of the house, and pray when you are tempted.

The next opportunity to speak to the priest tell him about your severe anxiety.
We are still int he Easter season. Christ has redeemed us. Rejoice, Repent, and be at peace.
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Don_Ruggero said:
You need to have a good heart to heart talk with your priest to help you to move away from a sense of despair and toward a sense of trust in God and His love and mercy.

Saint Paul, who had encountered the Risen Christ on the Road to Damascus, wrote of his own frustration…that what he wanted to do was precisely the thing he could not do – and the very thing he did not want to do was precisely what he did.

The sacraments and the mercy of God are there for us…there is no reason for you to despair.

Again, please talk to your priest about your anguish.
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mommy_k said:
You are not dammed. You are 14 years old under the authority of your parents. You cannot drive yourself to church even if you were well, which you are not. If your parents will not take you to confession or refuse that you go-it is not your fault. If you are sick, God understands and can read your soul that your intention is there, but beyond your control right now.

Obey your parents and do the following:
Say a sincere act of contrition and vow with sincerity also to get there as soon as possible, when you are better and have a way to get there.
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Thanks everybody. I meet with Father very soon. It just seems that my more mature side comes out and my mind is filled up with theological stuff when we visit him.
 
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