Urgent Prayer...Jet trying to land with twisted landing gear

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Praise God! Beautiful landing. That pilot did a magnificent job of flying. 👍
 
Praise God!!!

I have heard wonderful things about this Airline. I understand it is run by a former high up from Southwest Airlines, one of the best employers on the planet.

I have been in prayer all the way home from work, praying for the crew.

Unless you have worked for a Commercial Airline, you have no idea how well the Captain, First Officer and the Flight Attendants have trained for situations like this. Everyone has a big job to do.
Being a former Flight Attendant, my heart has been with these three people who have the cabin in their hands. Not only have they been keeping the folks up to date on the status of the situation, they are also going over and over in their minds, all the emergency procedures they were trained. This includes emergency evacuation but also emergency first aid. They also are working continually to keep the passengers calm, knowing how fast panic spreads.
They have already chosen a small number of passengers to call on for help, strong folks with stable temperments. All in the great and awesome training given a good flight crew.
I am not a pilot but have worked with great pilots. I know their dedication to the souls in their care.
I also know how much many of them trust in the mercy of God.
These folks were in good hands from the getgo.
 
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cargopilot:
They’ll be alright. He’ll keep the nose gear off the ground as long as possible, either the nose gear will break off and the nose will skid along, or it’ll veer off the runway. Either way the speed will be scrubbed off and everyone will walk away. I’ll pray for that.

One more reason to fly Boeing aircraft. Leave the food and wine to the French.
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Helloo… it was an Airbus (you know, one of those “Dangerous” French models) and it landed safely!!! Suprise…
 
Apparently, he had to circle to burn off fuel because that plane does not have the capablity to dump fuel. Does anyone know why this is so?

It seems a valuable capability for situations like this.
 
Joe Kelley:
Apparently, he had to circle to burn off fuel because that plane does not have the capablity to dump fuel. Does anyone know why this is so?

It seems a valuable capability for situations like this.
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They don’t need the amount of fuel those that can dump do. Worse comes to worse, if it was a really dramatic situation and needed to get down ASAP, they could’ve just landed overweight. But with planes such as the 747, A340, A330 etc, they are loaded up with so much fuel for their 10+ hour journeys that they need to get rid of it asap, because a heavy landing in a large long-hauler could prove to be catastrophic.
Just a side not, you can get this plane with a fuel dump option i beleive, Jetblue chose not to for whatever reason.
 
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walstan:
Helloo… it was an Airbus (you know, one of those “Dangerous” French models) and it landed safely!!! Suprise…
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Don’t take it seriosuly 😛 Pilots love the Airbus vs Boeing discussion, and each side likes to taunt the other 😃 Airbus is by no means bad or unsafe, nor is Boeing.
 
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canadianlife:
Don’t take it seriosuly 😛 Pilots love the Airbus vs Boeing discussion, and each side likes to taunt the other 😃 Airbus is by no means bad or unsafe, nor is Boeing.
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Thank you, canadianlife. You’re right, it’s like ‘I’d rather push a Chevy, than drive a Ford’ or ‘Friends don’t let friends drive a Chevy.’ I’m American, so I’ll always prefer a Boeing. I don’t care for French airplanes, I never will.

Oh, and walstan? I knew exactly what it was. I wasn’t saying it was a Boeing, I was saying FLY Boeing.
 
I just listened to a clip that catches part of the convo between the pilot, dispatch, and tech. Tech was SURE it was an indicator failure, and advised to go to Long Beach. Which was what he did, but obviously changed his mind and did a flyby to get a visual inspection, which saved them. Way to go tech. Funny, I remember this happening with another Airbus sort of, oh right, Air Transat over the atlantic, pilot thought it was an indicator failure. Nope.
 
Appreciate the joke, (eventually) as far as dumping is concerned I am no expert but could it be that dumping, duew to it’s environmental effect may only be acceptable in extremis, dumping in this situation where “flight” is not the problem I would have imagined to have been frowned on.,
 
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walstan:
Appreciate the joke, (eventually) as far as dumping is concerned I am no expert but could it be that dumping, duew to it’s environmental effect may only be acceptable in extremis, dumping in this situation where “flight” is not the problem I would have imagined to have been frowned on.,
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I’m just an enthusiast/soon-to-be student pilot, but my guess is dumped fuel would just evaporate and not be even close to as bad as a tanker spilling oil type of situation. Cargopilot, any idea? Even then, life takes precedence over environment, so if you gotta get down, dump!
 
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canadianlife:
I’m just an enthusiast/soon-to-be student pilot, but my guess is dumped fuel would just evaporate and not be even close to as bad as a tanker spilling oil type of situation. Cargopilot, any idea? Even then, life takes precedence over environment, so if you gotta get down, dump!
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They explained, during the wait time as it was happening, that the Airbus does not have the ability to Dump Fuel. It has to be burned off, as opposed to the Boeing planes which can dump. It had nothing to do with enviroment issues, but design of the Airbus.
 
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canadianlife:
I just listened to a clip that catches part of the convo between the pilot, dispatch, and tech. Tech was SURE it was an indicator failure, and advised to go to Long Beach. Which was what he did, but obviously changed his mind and did a flyby to get a visual inspection, which saved them. Way to go tech. Funny, I remember this happening with another Airbus sort of, oh right, Air Transat over the atlantic, pilot thought it was an indicator failure. Nope.
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One of the news helicopter pilots was also in communication with the ground and the plane. He gave them his observations of the problem.
 
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walstan:
Appreciate the joke, (eventually) as far as dumping is concerned I am no expert but could it be that dumping, duew to it’s environmental effect may only be acceptable in extremis, dumping in this situation where “flight” is not the problem I would have imagined to have been frowned on.,
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There is a designated fuel dumping area over the ocean off Los Angeles which is usually used in such situations. The TV reporters expected him to use it. That’s when the discussion of Airbus capability came up.

Three hours of circling preparatory to a crash landing is not good for the passengers’ nerves. Also, the pilot would have liked to get rid of more fuel, he still had an hour and a half worth, but he wanted daylight for his landing and any subsequent actions that might be needed.
 
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Marie:
They explained, during the wait time as it was happening, that the Airbus does not have the ability to Dump Fuel. It has to be burned off, as opposed to the Boeing planes which can dump. It had nothing to do with enviroment issues, but design of the Airbus.
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Its not the manufactuer, its the plane type. the A340 and A330 can dump, I do believe you can request fuel dump on the A320(Jetblue Model). Likewise with Boeing, 747, 767, 757(?) 777 can dump, 737 can’t, but I’m sure can be requested…just to clarify
 
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