US "Concedes" on Islam

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Couple of posts at The Corner I found interesting…

IRAQ Michael Ledeen]
I’ve been reading the Italian press on the Iraqi constitution, and some of the smarter commentators point out some things I think we’ve missed. First, there is hardly a country in the region without some language acknowledging Sharia as either “the” or “a major” basis for national legislation. But Iran, for example, says that Allah is the sole source of authority, while the Iraqi constitution says that the people are the only legitimate source of authority. This in itself is a revolutionary event. Big celebrations were under way among Kurds and Shi’ites, when the 3-day holiday was announced. These celebrations included lots of women, happy with the Bill of Rights that guaranteed freedom of religious choice, freedom for minorities, etc. The new constitution makes Iraq a Federal Republic, NOT an “Arab Republic,” which is again revolutionary. And the federal nature of the new republic is revolutionary for the whole region. My favorite newspaper, il Foglio, comments: “All the neighboring countries (Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia) and also more distant ones (Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and Algeria) have trouble facing the spread of a democratic Iraq, of a Constitution born from true multiparty elections, and now a new innovation has been added: the…decentralization of power.”

So, while I’m still waiting for the final text, I’m feeling a lot better. I think Constitutions matter a lot. In the modern world where judges and lawyers rule, the written law is enormously important.
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT [Rick Brookhiser]
The first American constitution (the Articles of Confederation) took over a year to write (July 1776-November 1777), over three years to ratify (the 13th state, Maryland, did not sign on until March 1781), and about five and half years before roughly half the country realized it had to be junked. We had some harder problems than Iraq has–thirteen prickly sovereignties, a war against the world’s greatest superpower–but we also had great advantages–more than a century of experience of home rule in some places. Some of our circumstances were comparable (e.g., one third of the country disaffected in the early stages).
 
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Couple of posts at The Corner I found interesting…

IRAQ Michael Ledeen]
I’ve been reading the Italian press on the Iraqi constitution, and some of the smarter commentators point out some things I think we’ve missed. First, there is hardly a country in the region without some language acknowledging Sharia as either “the” or “a major” basis for national legislation. But Iran, for example, says that Allah is the sole source of authority, while the Iraqi constitution says that the people are the only legitimate source of authority. This in itself is a revolutionary event. Big celebrations were under way among Kurds and Shi’ites, when the 3-day holiday was announced. These celebrations included lots of women, happy with the Bill of Rights that guaranteed freedom of religious choice, freedom for minorities, etc. The new constitution makes Iraq a Federal Republic, NOT an “Arab Republic,” which is again revolutionary. And the federal nature of the new republic is revolutionary for the whole region. My favorite newspaper, il Foglio, comments: “All the neighboring countries (Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia) and also more distant ones (Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and Algeria) have trouble facing the spread of a democratic Iraq, of a Constitution born from true multiparty elections, and now a new innovation has been added: the…decentralization of power.”

So, while I’m still waiting for the final text, I’m feeling a lot better. I think Constitutions matter a lot. In the modern world where judges and lawyers rule, the written law is enormously important.
Posted at 03:11 PM

FOOD FOR THOUGHT [Rick Brookhiser]
The first American constitution (the Articles of Confederation) took over a year to write (July 1776-November 1777), over three years to ratify (the 13th state, Maryland, did not sign on until March 1781), and about five and half years before roughly half the country realized it had to be junked. We had some harder problems than Iraq has–thirteen prickly sovereignties, a war against the world’s greatest superpower–but we also had great advantages–more than a century of experience of home rule in some places. Some of our circumstances were comparable (e.g., one third of the country disaffected in the early stages).
It’s already started in the south of Iraq and if women don’t receive the same rights as men it will be left up to interpretation. Under sharia law, girls as young as 9 years old can be married and women are not entitled to custody of their children if they divorce or are divorced by their husbands. The United States of America should not be a part of instituting this kind of oppression against even one Iraqi woman or girl.
 
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It’s already started in the south of Iraq and if women don’t receive the same rights as men it will be left up to interpretation. Under sharia law, girls as young as 9 years old can be married and women are not entitled to custody of their children if they divorce or are divorced by their husbands. The United States of America should not be a part of instituting this kind of oppression against even one Iraqi woman or girl.
But according anti-war liberals, we should keep out of the middle east’s business…and let, say…the UN Human Rights Commision “handle” it…right?? Yeah, that’s the ticket!! :rolleyes:

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But according anti-war liberals, we should keep out of the middle east’s business…and let, say…the UN Human Rights Commision “handle” it…right?? Yeah, that’s the ticket!! :rolleyes:

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You’re actually defending this? The United States of America colluding and assisting in the writing of a constitution that will likely lead to lesser rights for women and children? You’re defending this? Is there any policy of our government that you won’t defend or do you simply take up for them no matter what?
 
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