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My Eastern (Byzantine-Ruthenian) pastor said today ‘I don’t know what would happen if I “went”’ as he is the only Eastern Catholic priest for about 150+ miles in any direction.
Since we are graced with a deacon who is able to celebrate the Liturgy of the Pre-Sanctified, I asked if we could use consecrated hosts and/or the Precious Blood from a local Latin Rite parish, assuming he would not be readily replaced.
His immediate response was “no” but then qualified it by saying he really wasn’t certain. So if we break this down:
1.) If a ciborium full of leavened bread (along with the typical wafers) was confected into the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ at a Mass, it could most certainly be used in an Eastern pre-sanctified liturgy. However leavened bread is not supposed to be used at the Mass. It would still become the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ, but we would be breaking a rule.
2.) If consecrated hosts from a Latin Rite parish were used at a pre-sanctified liturgy, they would get rather unwieldy after soaking in wine. Not too good.
3.) Now let’s go the other route. Let’s say a sealed vessel of wine were confected into the Body, Blood Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ at a Mass and later mixed with prosphora (leavened bread) at a pre-sanctified liturgy. The problem with this is that the Precious Blood is only supposed to be reserved in special cases for the sick. It’s also the tradition to mix the pre-consecrated bread with wine (not the Precious Blood) at pre-sanctified liturgies and not the reverse. Again, not too good.
4.) Drive the 150+ miles to pick-up a VERY large pyx of pre-consecrated bread and keep it reposed in the tabernacle to cover several pre-sanctified liturgies. Maybe.
5.) Change the way communion is distributed while in this situation.
Of all the options, #4 seems to be the most acceptable, although #1 also seems as though it would be doable if the two bishops involved were in agreement.
This is one of the more intriguing questions I have considered along this area in a very long time. Anyone have any actual experience with such a situation or have you heard of one and the choice they made?
Since we are graced with a deacon who is able to celebrate the Liturgy of the Pre-Sanctified, I asked if we could use consecrated hosts and/or the Precious Blood from a local Latin Rite parish, assuming he would not be readily replaced.
His immediate response was “no” but then qualified it by saying he really wasn’t certain. So if we break this down:
1.) If a ciborium full of leavened bread (along with the typical wafers) was confected into the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ at a Mass, it could most certainly be used in an Eastern pre-sanctified liturgy. However leavened bread is not supposed to be used at the Mass. It would still become the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ, but we would be breaking a rule.
2.) If consecrated hosts from a Latin Rite parish were used at a pre-sanctified liturgy, they would get rather unwieldy after soaking in wine. Not too good.
3.) Now let’s go the other route. Let’s say a sealed vessel of wine were confected into the Body, Blood Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ at a Mass and later mixed with prosphora (leavened bread) at a pre-sanctified liturgy. The problem with this is that the Precious Blood is only supposed to be reserved in special cases for the sick. It’s also the tradition to mix the pre-consecrated bread with wine (not the Precious Blood) at pre-sanctified liturgies and not the reverse. Again, not too good.
4.) Drive the 150+ miles to pick-up a VERY large pyx of pre-consecrated bread and keep it reposed in the tabernacle to cover several pre-sanctified liturgies. Maybe.
5.) Change the way communion is distributed while in this situation.
Of all the options, #4 seems to be the most acceptable, although #1 also seems as though it would be doable if the two bishops involved were in agreement.
This is one of the more intriguing questions I have considered along this area in a very long time. Anyone have any actual experience with such a situation or have you heard of one and the choice they made?