Using fear to elicit faith

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I will provide two links to rather “terrifying” videos filmed in the 1970-80s that wouldn’t be appropriate for young people to see (I think people who are older than 13 can watch them). However, many evangelicals have shown these videos to many young people in churches and have caused extreme consternation and harm in the lives of many impressionable people.

(No profanity or obscenity is depicted; death, but not profligate gore are depicted)

youtube.com/watch?v=pMYYdKVHHOo (just pause the image at 1:40 seconds if you do not want to watch it)
youtube.com/watch?v=f9DIW0r8gqA

Maybe those videos will bring back (unpleasant) memories for some viewers here. Do you think these videos (or similar material) are an appropriate tool for Protestant evangelization as they appeal to fear? Of course, no one wants to die in that fashion, but if one gets saved (by accepting Jesus as savior), they will evade the situation depicted in the films. These scenes allegedly have a basis in Scripture but many here do not agree with their interpretation of Scripture. However, other mediums convey the same message to throngs contemporarily and it is quite popular.
 
I think stylizing the tribulation as some sort of horror movie is simplistic and juvenile, and appeals to the wrong kind of fear. The fear that this kind of film targets is a temporal fear, which any faithful Christian shouldn’t be overly worried about. It’s an eternal fear that Christians should have. Not fear of execution or even torture, but fear of forfeiting their salvation to avoid such things. Such a fear is hardly something that can be conveyed in a movie.

Though, I pray that God has mercy on those who succumb to their temporal fears and deny Him to avoid death. He is well aware of what fear can make people do, and He sees into the corners of our hearts that even we cannot see into. May He have mercy on us all.

Amen.
 
It’s an eternal fear that Christians should have. Not fear of execution or even torture, but fear of forfeiting their salvation to avoid such things.
They get you on the ‘eternal fear’ too. It was the Left Behind series, a novelization of the Pre-Millenial view of the End Times, and it hits you with a one-two punch.

One: if you want to avoid Tribulation, become a Believer now and you will be raptured to Heaven prior to this terrible period (BTW- if I remember right, it depicts the current Pope, who is unnamed, getting ‘raptured’ and being replaced by Peter II who later become head of the One World Religion, which is more akin to a New Agism/Universalim and NOT Roman Catholicism and never called such; Roman Catholics I think come off pretty good in the series).

Two: if you want to avoid Hell, you had better be Saved before you die, which could occur at anytime, including during the Rapture itself (suddenly unmanned cars crash and kill people, etc.).

When I read the first book at age 18, as part of a high school language arts elective [this was in a non-religious school BTW], I suddenly felt the need to read the rest of books and, eventually, I realized that, if this stuff is true, since I was not a Believer, I’d be going to Hell. It scared me, I watched several televangelists (it was really the only access to Christianity I had since I was afraid of how my father and the rest of the family [my mother is passed away] would respond to my interest in Christianity so for awhile I was almost a Crypto-Christian) and eventually prayed the ‘Salvation prayer’ (many time over whenever I watched those shows again).

Mixed with my OCD, this fear-based faith (and for the first several months I wasn’t going to Church or even reading the Bible and I wasn’t baptized until about a year later…good ole Crypto-Christianity) caused, and in some ways continues to cause, me to be most unfruitful, easily manipulated (many people love to add things onto Salvation…) and just constantly scared: before baptism, I was worried that I wasn’t Saved; after baptism, I was afraid I wasn’t baptized properly (always worried that a part of me was not immersed) and baptized for the wrong reasons (fear and thinking it would Save me); I was always afraid that since I didn’t tell my father quickly about my faith (I eventually told him and he knew I was a Believer already) and, even now, have yet to tell other family members about it, that I was going to be ‘denied by Christ for denying Him’; anytime I sinned (or though I sinned), I was afraid I lost my Salvation; anytime I prayed (especially for forgiveness or the Salvation prayer itself) I worried that I was making vain repetition or praying without faith; I got sucked into bad theology; I had periods of great emotional distress and was worried that I was failing to follow God’s will and thus lost my Salvation.

Although I have experienced (and, in some ways, continue to experience) issues from fear-based faith, it is a mixed bag. I was talking to someone and they asked me if I believed, and I responded that I thought so (if I didn’t believe in Jesus, I wouldn’t fear that He’d one day send me to Hell) and I, intellectually at least (if it had gotten through to my emotions, i wouldn’t always be in the throes of fear), understood that Jesus died on the cross for my sins. I had said I had prayed the Salvation prayer many times and, as best I could tell, I believed it and I had been baptized. The guy I was talking to responded about how if I believed, then I was Saved and even though I had a lot of issues and fear, I still believed. Something about it being better to get to Heaven in third-class (not talking about rewards in Heaven, but more about the discomfort and issues I face) then to go to Hell in first-class.

I will say one thing though, fear doesn’t usually stop a person from sinning (I know this from personal experience), but merely causes them to get very scared afterwards, worry about their Salvation and, instead of asking God for forgiveness [either directly or indirectly] (from the point-of-view of a theology that would say that sin, even willful sin, does not cause loss of Salvation, forgiveness is basically restoration of fellowship with God and cleansing the person’s conscience and/or soul in some way so that the negative and harmful effects of sin on a person’s relationship with God and other people is reduced/reversed), to just get scared and try to come up with some odd way of ‘making up’ for the sin (either in addition to, or instead of, confessing to God). For instance, for me, depending on the sin, the way to make-up for it (in addition to confession to God) was, if it was a sin I was embarassed about, confession to another person (i.e. my father or some random Christian, even if the sin did not involve them at all).
 
Jewish sages say good deeds and believing God out of fear and obligation are counted as less than doing it because you really want to. Jesus also touched on that with the Pharisees who did the works but lacked feeling in the heart.
 
I think the problem with appealing to people’s fears to try and spark some faith in them is that it’s a backwards approach. Your faith should be based on a love for God, and once you love God and realize that He loves you too, you begin to fear disappointing Him, much as you fear disappointing your parents. Trying to do it the other way around, fearing that God is just waiting to smite you, and then trying to love Him, doesn’t seem to work very well.

People sometimes seem to forget that even though God is infinitely just, He is also infinitely loving and merciful. If He wasn’t, He wouldn’t have given us His only begotten Son so that we might be with Him for eternity despite our many smiteworthy offenses.
 
I sent a PM to cyberjacques asking about this, but I guess I’ll put this to the forums:

As a Christian who deals fear-based faith and was, as best I can tell, converted by such, I hvae noticed it creates a disconnect. On the one hand, I believe in Jesus Christ (if I didn’t, I wouldn’t be afraid He will send me to Hell) and I think I intellectually understand/acknowledge that He died on the cross for my sin, yet, because of the fear, I do not seem to have a true love for God and other people (sometimes I think I do, but I don’t know) and, lacking love and being full of fear sometimes, it leads to a lack of fruits of faith. Then, this all leads to further fears of loss of Salvation and/or never being Saved at all. What should I and other Christians do?
 
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