Using live animals during Mass ... liturgical abuse?

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This week (Mon-Fri) my parish held Vacation Bible School, which I volunteered for. It was held at the reception hall/auditiorium (which was all decorated up, according to the Serengeti theme). Today (Friday), being the last day of VBS, we had a Mass for the children mid-morning. However, the Mass was held in the reception hall. Is this permissible?

Also, some of the VBS songs were incorporated into the Mass (in fact, I think some of the standard Mass songs were substituted by the VBS songs). I very much like the songs, and they are worship songs … nevertheless, I’m unsure as to whether it was appropriate that they were used in that context (they are of the dancy move-your-body sort).

Here’s another thing. Last Friday, there was a volunteer meeting, and the VBS coordinator had told us at that meeting, that our pastor had said no to the idea of having Mass in the reception hall, since we have the church. ( Today’s children’s Mass was not performed by our pastor – he was out today – but by one of our associate pastors). In my mind I agreed with my pastor’s decision.

At that same volunteer meeting, I learned something that I found to be disturbing. The coordinator mentioned that in past years, for VBS, animals like chickens, guinea pigs, turtles, were kept in the reception hall (in cages) for more entertainment for the children, and that it was permitted by the parish’s former pastor, but that our new pastor (who has been at the parish for about a year now) didn’t want that to happen this time around.

That’s not the disturbing part ( I was somewhat indifferent as to whether animals are allowed or not at VBS, but I could sympathize with them not being allowed, as that is just more responsibility and mess).

The disturbing part is when, in giving us the anecdote about past use of animals, our coodinator mentioned that at the VBS Mass in the past, the animals were brought forward to the altar, since animals were sacrificed in the Old Testament. I don’t remember if she specified during which part of the Mass this was done, and she didn’t mention whether the animals were kept on the ground, or placed on or near the altar, or what. Simply, the way she described it made it clear that *some kind *of procession/ illustration took place during the Mass, involving the animals in relation to the altar.

I don’t know what others in the room thought when they heard that, and the coordinator didn’t appear troubled at all, but I was pretty shocked.
 
Only if its the Feast of St. Francis is having animals around a good thing.
 
Depending on the layout of your parish, and the number of children, it might not be practical to move them all to the Church building itself. It might also be wasteful to turn on the air conditioning in both the Church and parish hall if the Church is only being used for a single mass that day. So its not automatically wrong to hold mass in the Parish hall per se.

As for the animals, if they are involved used the liturgy itself, then that should probably be stop. But if the animals are simply kept in the parish hall, and mass happens to be held in the hall, then that’s not sinful. Our Lord was born in a stable after all!
 
I don’t understand the part about having animals there to keep the children entertained :eek: :confused: it’s the Mass! 😦 I’m assuming that the animals were placed there for the Mass… if they were in the hall the whole time, and happened to be there when the Mass was there, - that is different, although I think they should still have been moved somewhere.
 


The disturbing part is when, in giving us the anecdote about past use of animals, our coodinator mentioned that at the VBS Mass in the past, the animals were brought forward to the altar, since animals were sacrificed in the Old Testament. I don’t remember if she specified during which part of the Mass this was done, and she didn’t mention whether the animals were kept on the ground, or placed on or near the altar, or what. Simply, the way she described it made it clear that *some kind *of procession/ illustration took place during the Mass, involving the animals in relation to the altar.

I don’t know what others in the room thought when they heard that, and the coordinator didn’t appear troubled at all, but I was pretty shocked.
Wow. They also sacrificed children in the Old Testament. Tell me how that goes over at VBS! :eek:

This is so theologically wrong, and confusing to the poor kids, in so many ways.

You might want to remind these “creative” types that sacrifices in the Temple stopped when the Temple was destroyed. For a reason. Jesus’ sacrifice at Calvary was the final bloody sacrifice. The true sacrifice of the Lamb of God replaces and makes void all animal sacrifice. The kids will see a re-presentation of that sacrifice at Mass. No need to confuse them with guinea pig cages. They’ve got the real thing.

Now, if they were going to have some heifers, goats, and rams, and cut them in half, and the Lord was to pass between them…now we’re talking real animal sacrifice! See Genesis 15:9-10.
 
Only if its the Feast of St. Francis is having animals around a good thing.
I was on a mission trip to Tanzania last summer. At most parishes, the majority of the offering is produce. Most of the time, it is fruit, vegtables etc… but occasionally it is a farm animal.

At the Cathedral, a rooster was given. It crowed at several points in the Mass. We mzungu’s (whites) were the only one who noticed or cared 🙂

At one of the parishes, a goat was brought up, with a comment to the priest that the goat was for us. We ate him as the main course for our going away dinner 😃 )
 
This The disturbing part is when, in giving us the anecdote about past use of animals, our coodinator mentioned that at the VBS Mass in the past, the animals were brought forward to the altar, since animals were sacrificed in the Old Testament. I .
I cannot think of anything more cruel to the children involved than to explain to them that the animals that have been part of their VBS activities are being taken up to the altar because in the past animals have been sacrificed during worship.

leaving aside the fallacy inherent in the concept, and the rest of the liturgical abuse involved (and I hope you are doing what you can to get her fired) to say such a think to children is, I am beyond words.
 
It could be appropriate to bring the animals forward during the offertory, that is, of course, providing the animals were being given to the church as an offering . . . hey wait, maybe they could sell the animals before Mass and just give the money to the church - better yet, maybe some people could set up tables in the foyer or narthex and they could exchange them there . . . oh wait . . . 😃
 
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