Using the rosary not for saying the rosary

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Good morning! I am new to Catholic Answers Forums today, though I listen to the program on our local EWTN station as often as I can.

I searched the forums for this topic before writing this, and found only very old (closed) posts.

What is the actual Catholic teaching on using a rosary to pray the Divine Mercy chaplet? Am I taking away from the sanctity of the purpose of the rosary by using it for prayers other than for “saying the rosary” as it has been taught for millennia?

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You pretty much need to say the prayers on a rosary. ONe has to keep count.
Everything about the Chaplet says “can be prayed on regular rosary beads”.
It’s fine.
The beads can be blessed as a Sacramental, but that sanctifies your prayers.
it doesn’t turn it into something “magical”/

Be at peace.
 
MD3 said:
Am I taking away from the sanctity of the purpose of the rosary by using it for prayers other than for “saying the rosary” as it has been taught for millennia?
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The following suggests a rosary can be effectively used for more than just praying the Marian rosary:
“The faithful can acquire an indulgence if they use devoutly one of the following properly blessed pious objects, namely: a crucifix or cross, rosary, scapular, or medal.”

Manual of Indulgences (Kindle Locations 471-473).
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In fact, not to be too legalistic here, but it would seem that using rosary beads to pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet is actually indulgenced in a roundabout way.
 
The Divine Mercy Chaplet is a verified private revelation with the same standing as the traditional rosary. One is not any more licit than the other.
 
It depends on what you mean by “standing.” The Church has indulgenced the Marian rosary in ways she has not indulgenced the Divine Mercy Chaplet. So in that sense, they do not have the same “standing.”
 
Ereshkigal said:
It depends on what you mean by “standing.” The Church has indulgenced the Marian rosary in ways she has not indulgenced the Divine Mercy Chaplet. So in that sense, they do not have the same “standing.”
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They are both equally valid. They are both private revelations we are not required to follow. The benefits of each may be different, but in the church’s eyes, there is no less legitimacy from the Divine Mercy Chaplet.

Yes, there have been greater promises and other weight given, but bonus spiritual benefits do not change the standing. They both stem from an approved and private revelation.
 
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The Marian rosary does not stem from an approved, private revelation.
 
There is nothing wrong with using the rosary to count other prayers. It is the prayers that have significance and efficacy, not the rosary beads .
 
Xanthippe_Voorhees said:
Yeah, it does.
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You are wrong. The historicity of the apparitions to St. Dominic cannot be determined, and they have never officially been approved as being constat de supernaturalitate.

As your own link states
Some scholars and others may object to the history of the Rosary as related by Bl. Alan de la Roche.
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Xanthippe_Voorhees:
Yeah, it does.
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You are wrong. The historicity of the apparitions to St. Dominic cannot be determined, and they have never officially been approved as being constat de supernaturalitate.

As your own link states
Some scholars and others may object to the history of the Rosary as related by Bl. Alan de la Roche.
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No, I’m not wrong. Whether it’s traced back to St. Dominic or to his later compatriot, Bl. Alan doesn’t matter. It’s a private revelation. Period.

The church does not require it’s use. Nor does it require the use of the Divine Mercy Chaplet. Both are just as optional as one another.
 
Xanthippe_Voorhees said:
No, I’m not wrong. Whether it’s traced back to St. Dominic or to his later compatriot, Bl. Alan doesn’t matter. It’s a private revelation. Period.
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You are wrong.

The Marian rosary does not stem from an approved, private revelation.
 
Here’s another example from EWTN. It’s private.

http://www.ewtn.com/v/experts/showmessage.asp?number=343597&Pg=&Pgnu=&recnu=

Heres the USCCB on it being a private devotion. Some do question the divine nature of it’s gift to us, but it is no more or less private in that respect.
http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-wor...nal-practices-basic-questions-and-answers.cfm

Here is a timeline of the rosary including the fact that it’s common form, the Dominican Rosary, was given to St. Domnic in private revelation.

http://www.catholicapologetics.org/ap080600.htm
 
Erishkagel2 said:
Maybe you’re misunderstanding me.

The alleged apparitions to St. Dominic have never been investigated and approved as having occurred and as being of supernatural origin.

Whether the Marian rosary is a private devotion is not relevant. Whether there is an old tradition in the Church that has Mary giving the rosary to St. Dominic is not relevant. Whether Popes have loved the rosary and have written encyclicals about it is not relevant. Whether Fr. Levis, God rest his soul, stated the rosary is a private devotion is not relevant.

Relevant to what?

To whether or not the Marian rosary stems from an approved, private revelation.

It doesn’t. You said it does. You were wrong. Sorry.
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Nah, you’re still wrong…and now you’re using 2 accounts to try to prove your point.

It’s private and approved.
Period.

It is no more valid than any of the other private, approved devotions.

Zero.
 
And you’re using multi accounts–so stop.

No, it’s not a mistake. It’s approved and private. Period.

I don’t say the rosary, either. I don’t like it. And guess what? The church is Aok with that. 😏
 
When my prayer rope is not handy, I use my rosary beads for the Jesus Prayer…As long as you are praying, rattle those beads anyway that moves you!
 
Brother JREducation had a very good post about the origin of the Rosary He said that the Dominicans wished that people would stop saying it was literally given to St. Dominic.

Wish I could find it, it was a very good and well-researched post.
 
What a passive-aggressive post.
Xan is a woman, for starters, and if would have been enough to post what the good Dominican scholar said without casting shade on other posters.

Sock puppets indeed.
 
Our Lady asked us to say the Rosary at the last 4 Church approved Private Apparitions
 
It’s fine to use the rosary to say other approved Catholic prayers like the Divine Mercy. In fact I don’t think I have ever seen a specific chaplet made just for Divine Mercy - all instructions I’ve seen have said to use your rosary. Given that the Divine Mercy was promoted by Saint Pope JPII, who was also a devotee of Our Lady of Fatima and the Rosary, if this had been a problem he would have said so.

Earlier this year, Fr. Heilman had a Holy Face Chaplet novena going via his online prayer group. There are websites where you can purchase a Holy Face chaplet, but not everyone has money or wants to have to buy another item to join in prayers, plus at least one of the purchase websites, plus another site that gives out free chaplets on request, were completely swamped with requests and said so on their Web pages. I ordered both a paid and a free one but I didn’t get the paid one till the novena was nearly over and didn’t get the free one till months later. In this situation it only makes sense to use the Rosary. Father explained how to do that by skipping certain beads.
 
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