Vaccinations from 1960's aborted babies

[bsanders21]

i read that the vaccinations we give to our children were derived from aborted babies in the 1960’s. how much of this is true, and, if so, is there any alternatives to these vaccinations that can still protect our children against potentially threatening illnesses?

 

[gam197]

Welcome to the forums!

Yes, it is the rubella part of the MMR shot that was from aborted babies. Also the chicken pox shot uses aborted cells

I heard a doctor on the radio say that he doesn’t like the chicken pox shot. He thinks it was just easier to have the kids get chicken pox and have it done with. His concern is that the shot at some point will no longer be effective and many older people will get shingles because they have never been truly exposed to chicken pox.

I ordered shots over the phone with a credit card from a pharmacy who sent them to the pediatrician who gave them to my grandson - the Measles and Mumps shots, and we chose to have them done at two appointments.

Here is their email and web page for the group. I emailed them and they emailed me right back with a list of pharmacists.

cogforlife@aol.com

cogforlife.org/

From site and there is a petition you can sign…

For over 30 years, our country has been quietly producing vaccines from human cell lines derived from abortion. There are seven commonly used vaccines: Polio, Rabies, Rubella (MMR), Chickenpox, Hepatitis-A, Twinrix (Hepatitis A-B combo) and ProQuad (MMR-Chickenpox combo) all of which were propagated from the lung tissue of two aborted babies, one male, one female. Of these, three have NO ALTERNATIVE SOURCE: Rubella/MMR, Chickenpox and Hepatitis-A. There are alternatives for both Rubella and Hepatitis-A, but these products are not available in the United States.

 

[SoCalRC]

There are at least five vaccines in common use may have ‘illicit’ (per Church teaching) origins:

Rubella, (MMR, MMVax, etc.)
Poliovax
Havrix (hepatitis A)
Imovax Rabies ID (which also inherently taints Immune Globulin)
Varivax (chicken pox and shingles)

Poliovax is probably a good example of ‘why’ (in secular scientific terms). Poliomyelitis vaccine had a relatively high ‘negative reaction rate’. That is, the vaccine itself was fairly dangerous. However, although most here may be too young to remember, polio itself was a lot scarier, and everyone could see the effects first hand.

But a live viral cultivated in cells from a monkey kidney has a lot of problems. For example, the kidneys have been shown to carry SV-40, a form of aids, and the same SV-40 strain shows up in cancer tumors found in children whose parents have received tainted vaccine. This started raising a lot of concerns about new immune deficiency problems from the vaccine, so a safer vaccine was highly desired.

Poliovax uses inactivated versions of the polio vaccine, so direct side effects are much lower. But to accomplish this, very pristine (non damaged) copies of the virus must be used. Human diploid cells provide am optimum growth medium to accomplish this. They also minimize the problems of cross species cultivation.

It isn’t a matter of killing babies as an ingredient in the vaccine, but the human diploid cell type (MRC-5) used was originally cultivated from an aborted fetus. Subsequently, the diploid cells are ‘grown’. For example:

jcs.biologists.org/cgi/reprint/35/1/381.pdf

To be fair, quite a bit of this research predates the Church’s express statements on the matter. And one Wistar Institute researcher involved in the original “WI-38” culture (essential in developing the rubella vaccine) not only raised the bioethical questions, but actively pursued a dialog with the Church looking for guidance.

Everyone has to follow their own concience but, frankly, the only one that really troubles me is Varivax (chicken pox). Chicken pox is not wholly benign, and I can personally attest that the shingles (the same virus coming back for one last fling after lying dormant in the body) are pure agony. But the risk/return for the vaccine still isn’t great. And part of the use of human diploid cells seems like pure convenience, since was then propogated in guinea pig cell cultures.

Again, to be fair, Merck (Varivax is Oka/Merck), has since been somewhat responsive to consumer complaints about fetal tissue use in vaccine development.