Valid baptism?

[Melchior]

I understand that the right matter and formula (Trinitarian) and intent to baptize make a baptism valid, even outside the church. I also know that intent matters, since Mormons may use the right matter and invocation, but have a wrong view of the Trinity, they don’t have true baptism.

Now here is my question, if those Protestants with an orthodox view of the Trinity, but a deficient view of what baptism actually does - such as Baptists, Presbyterians etc. then is the baptism valid, if the formula, matter and proper Trinitarian belief are there in that church, but not the intend to do anything other than to enact a non efficacious ritual? Example, my eldest child was baptized in a Presbyterian Church. The pastor spent most of the time just before the baptism explaining what baptism does not do. Then he baptized her. Does the pastor’s understanding alter his intent thus making my duaghter’s baptism invalid. Or does the church recogize her baptism as valid? My guess would be yes, since every Baptist convert would have to be “re”-baptized coming into the church. But I would like to know for sure if the church still recognizes such as the proper intent to baptize despite the wrong or incomplete understanding of what it actually effect in the soul.

Thanks,

Mel

 

[Scoobyshme]

I understand that the right matter and formula (Trinitarian) and intent to baptize make a baptism valid, even outside the church. I also know that intent matters, since Mormons may use the right matter and invocation, but have a wrong view of the Trinity, they don’t have true baptism.

Now here is my question, if those Protestants with an orthodox view of the Trinity, but a deficient view of what baptism actually does - such as Baptists, Presbyterians etc. then is the baptism valid, if the formula, matter and proper Trinitarian belief are there in that church, but not the intend to do anything other than to enact a non efficacious ritual? Example, my eldest child was baptized in a Presbyterian Church. The pastor spent most of the time just before the baptism explaining what baptism does not do. Then he baptized her. Does the pastor’s understanding alter his intent thus making my duaghter’s baptism invalid. Or does the church recogize her baptism as valid? My guess would be yes, since every Baptist convert would have to be “re”-baptized coming into the church. But I would like to know for sure if the church still recognizes such as the proper intent to baptize despite the wrong or incomplete understanding of what it actually effect in the soul.

Thanks,

Mel

Mel,

Yes, the Church recognizes Protestant Baptism as valid, as long as they use proper matter and formula. (Some Pentecostal groups baptize in the name of Jesus only, so those are not valid.)

The Church also recognizes Protestant Matrimony as a valid Sacrament, too.

Scooby

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