Valid Consecration?

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I just attended a Mass where the priest did not touch the bread or hold the chalice during the words of consecration. He just stood there and said “Take this…”, etc.

Did he consecrate the Eucharist?

Please provide me a link to an authoritative source.

I tried looking it up on the USCCB website but couldn’t find anything.
 
I’m reasonably certain that the Latin rubrics require the Priest to touch or hold the appropriate vessels, but I don’t know.

However in the Byzantine Liturgies of St. John Chrysostom and St. Basil, the Priest does not do so, but merely points to the Oblata during the Words of Institution. (The Deacon does likewise.)

So, no, it was not invalid. Were this so, it would be “invalid” in the Byzantine LIturgy as well–which it definitely is not.

However, in the Latin Rite (or any other, for that matter), it would be illicit if the Priest deliberately disregarded the rubrics–but that’s not the same as “invalid”.

Maybe he just forgot to do so. Give him a break.
 
I just attended a Mass where the priest did not touch the bread or hold the chalice during the words of consecration. He just stood there and said “Take this…”, etc.

Did he consecrate the Eucharist?

Please provide me a link to an authoritative source.

I tried looking it up on the USCCB website but couldn’t find anything.
Yes he consecrated the Eucharist (actually, I’d prefer to say God did, but that’s a separate topic)
 
I just attended a Mass where the priest did not touch the bread or hold the chalice during the words of consecration. He just stood there and said “Take this…”, etc.

Did he consecrate the Eucharist?

Please provide me a link to an authoritative source.

I tried looking it up on the USCCB website but couldn’t find anything.
Yes he did Consecrate, but not licitly.
 
However in the Byzantine Liturgies of St. John Chrysostom and St. Basil, the Priest does not do so, but merely points to the Oblata during the Words of Institution. (The Deacon does likewise.)
Even in the west, at a concelebrated Mass, generally only the principal celebrant handles the bread and the wine, but all of the concelebrants join in the consecration.

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