Valid Eucharist

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Hi - After having read your information about what may be used in the making of the hosts and not finding my questions answered, I would like to know, if wheat and water and honey are used to make “cakes” that were consecrated at a Mass I attended, the wine was poured into glass goblets which were then consecrated as well - is it possible that the Eucharist was invalid but the wine could be consecrated into the Precious Blood and that WOULD be valid? I was most distressed at viewing this. I tried to find out what was used in the making of the hosts - I was told wheat, water, honey and sometimes nuts or fruits, when in season. Thank you for your help!
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I would like to know, if wheat and water and honey are used…
The bread for the Eucharist must be pure wheat bread: wheat and water. The Western tradition is to use unleavened bread, while most Eastern churches use leavened bread. (In the Roman Church, the bread is unleavened, but leavened bread is valid but not licit; vice versa in most of the Eastern churches.)

From Redemptionis Sacramentum 48:
The bread used in the celebration of the Most Holy Eucharistic Sacrifice must be unleavened, purely of wheat, and recently made so that there is no danger of decomposition. It follows therefore that bread made from another substance, even if it is grain, or if it is mixed with another substance different from wheat to such an extent that it would not commonly be considered wheat bread, does not constitute valid matter for confecting the Sacrifice and the Eucharistic Sacrament. It is a grave abuse to introduce other substances, such as fruit or sugar or honey, into the bread for confecting the Eucharist.
Simply put: you can’t add nuts, berries, honey, sugar, etc. to the bread for the Eucharist.
the wine was poured into glass goblets which were then consecrated as well - is it possible that the Eucharist was invalid but the wine could be consecrated into the Precious Blood and that WOULD be valid?
The Eucharist is both the Precious Body and Blood. It is inappropriate to consecrate bread but not wine, or wine but not bread, which is what happens when the bread or wine is invalid matter. The pouring of the wine into glass goblets is regrettable and should not be done, but the quality of the sacred vessels does not affect the validity of the sacrament.
 
Hi - After having read your information about what may be used in the making of the hosts and not finding my questions answered, I would like to know, if wheat and water and honey are used to make “cakes” that were consecrated at a Mass I attended, the wine was poured into glass goblets which were then consecrated as well - is it possible that the Eucharist was invalid but the wine could be consecrated into the Precious Blood and that WOULD be valid? I was most distressed at viewing this. I tried to find out what was used in the making of the hosts - I was told wheat, water, honey and sometimes nuts or fruits, when in season. Thank you for your help!
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It would not have been “most likely” illicit but not invalid.

If the Matter for the Precious Blood is valid and the Matter for the Host is not valid Matter, the one would Consecrate the other would not. This would be seriously illicit for the priest to knowingly allow.
 
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