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or do an article request through worldcat at your local library.Interesting article. Unfortunately, you have to pay to get the entire text.
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This one helps me understand a little bit. Thanks.Hi francisca, “ben” can have different meanings based on context. Remember all translation is interpretation.
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Someone is taking “sons of the Most High (bene Elyon)” and connecting it in their thinking with “sons of God” in Job to say that they are angels. The word “sons” can refer to human offspring, children, descents, see lexicon entry at link. Since, these “sons” die, they must be human.
Here is how the mormons use psa 82, John 10
fairlds.org/Bible/Reconsidering_Psalms_82_6.html
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Daniel_Marsh
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You are welcome dear lady
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Valke2
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Psalm 82 should be called the lawyer’s pslam. THe opening verse sets the Courtroom motif: “God stands in the divine assembly; among the divine beings He pronounces judgment.”
The Hebrew uses the same term for God and “divine beings.” “Elohim” is used as a general term for supernatural beings. Psalms 42-83 are known as the “Elohistic Psalter.” They use Elohim much more often than YHVH. The rest of the pslams use YHVH more than Elohim. Why? Who knows. But it is clear the the opening of Pslam 82 refers to “the Lord.”
The psalmist sees God standing in the middle of a celestial assembly. The idea of a celestial court was well known in biblical and pre-biblical times. The monothesitic religions have revised the celestial court to a celestial council. (Since there is only one God and none is His equal). Similar references can be found in Jerimiah and in Psalm 89.
Why is God standing? Judges are traditionally represented as sitting. Jethro finds Moses seated when he’s judging. Deborah would sit under a plam tree when she judged. Isaiah 28:6 refers to the one who “sits in judgment.” etc. So why is GOd standing in this psalm?
It is because our psalm takes place after the legal proceedings are over. After the judging has been done and only the giving the sentence remains. God stands (or rises) to pronounce the sentence because His word is self-fullfilling. The Hebrew words for standing or rising express imminent action. This is why God is often called to “arise” – i.e., execute judgment.
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The Hebrew uses the same term for God and “divine beings.” “Elohim” is used as a general term for supernatural beings. Psalms 42-83 are known as the “Elohistic Psalter.” They use Elohim much more often than YHVH. The rest of the pslams use YHVH more than Elohim. Why? Who knows. But it is clear the the opening of Pslam 82 refers to “the Lord.”
The psalmist sees God standing in the middle of a celestial assembly. The idea of a celestial court was well known in biblical and pre-biblical times. The monothesitic religions have revised the celestial court to a celestial council. (Since there is only one God and none is His equal). Similar references can be found in Jerimiah and in Psalm 89.
Why is God standing? Judges are traditionally represented as sitting. Jethro finds Moses seated when he’s judging. Deborah would sit under a plam tree when she judged. Isaiah 28:6 refers to the one who “sits in judgment.” etc. So why is GOd standing in this psalm?
It is because our psalm takes place after the legal proceedings are over. After the judging has been done and only the giving the sentence remains. God stands (or rises) to pronounce the sentence because His word is self-fullfilling. The Hebrew words for standing or rising express imminent action. This is why God is often called to “arise” – i.e., execute judgment.
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What is the situation in the Psalm that requires divine judgment?
“How long will you judge perversely, showing favor to the wicked?
Judge the wretched and the orphan,
vindicate the lwoly and the poor,
rescue the wretched and the needy;
save them from the hand of the wicked.”
The corrupt judicial system and decline of morality in society require God to intervene with the celestial court.
more later.
I’m paraphrasing, btw, the writing of Nahum Sarna from “On the Book of Psalms”
“How long will you judge perversely, showing favor to the wicked?
Judge the wretched and the orphan,
vindicate the lwoly and the poor,
rescue the wretched and the needy;
save them from the hand of the wicked.”
The corrupt judicial system and decline of morality in society require God to intervene with the celestial court.
more later.
I’m paraphrasing, btw, the writing of Nahum Sarna from “On the Book of Psalms”
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