Various Traditions

[dje101]

Hi all,

In my research, I’ve heard about the importance of tradition in the Church. However, everything that I’ve learned so far (which isn’t very much in the grand scheme of things) seems to be biblically based.

Can you awesome CAF members provide a quick blurp about some of the traditions that are a part of the Catholic Church?

Thanks all!

God Bless

 

[SteveGC]

Instead of listing out the numerous traditions, I would first suggest a clear understanding of the relationship between Sacred Scripture and Tradition.

From Dei Verbum (Chapter II):

"*Hence there exists a close connection and communication between sacred Tradition and sacred Scripture. For both of them, flowing from the same divine wellspring, in a certain way merge into a unity and tend toward the same end. For sacred Scripture is the word of God inasmuch as it is consigned to writing under the inspiration of the divine Spirit. To the successors of the apostles, sacred Tradition hands on in its full purity God’s word, which was entrusted to the apostles by Christ the Lord and the Holy Spirit.

“Thus, by the light of the Spirit of truth, these successors can in their preaching preserve this word of God faithfully, explain it, and make it more widely known. Consequently it is not from sacred Scripture alone that the Church draws her certainty about everything which has been revealed. Therefore both sacred Tradition and sacred Scripture are to be accepted and venerated with the same devotion and reverence.”*

 

[dje101]

People on CAF have said that there are three legs that the CC stands on: Scripture, Tradition, and (I believe) the Magesterium. Your definition makes it sound like Tradition and Scripture are one.

I understand that they are to intertwine with each other, if that is what you are trying to get at.

I guess what I’m trying to figure out is this:

The CC claims that one source of authority is Tradition.

Opponents to the CC claim that using Tradition is unbiblical.

What traditions are they talking about?

 

[Skeptic92]

Hi all,

In my research, I’ve heard about the importance of tradition in the Church. However, everything that I’ve learned so far (which isn’t very much in the grand scheme of things) seems to be biblically based.

Can you awesome CAF members provide a quick blurp about some of the traditions that are a part of the Catholic Church?

Thanks all!

God Bless

Do you mean *Tradition *(the capital T makes a difference) or tradition?

tradition, is like the Rosary, the Divine Office, the current rites of the Mass, vestments, Iconography (such as statues etc) and other devotions, all different rites have slihtly different devotions (even religious communities do, the Franciscans, Benedictines, Jesuits etc all have slightly different devotions and traditions).

People on CAF have said that there are three legs that the CC stands on: Scripture, Tradition, and (I believe) the Magesterium. Your definition makes it sound like Tradition and Scripture are one.

I understand that they are to intertwine with each other, if that is what you are trying to get at.

I guess what I’m trying to figure out is this:

The CC claims that one source of authority is Tradition.

Opponents to the CC claim that using Tradition is unbiblical.

What traditions are they talking about?

one such Tradition I would argue is The Most Holy Trinity, it is never explicitly mentioned or defined in Scripture, but through Tradition. Another one of these such doctrines (well dogmas) is the Assumption of Mary, it derives chiefly from Tradition, and some parts of scripture might hint at it (I’m unsure which verses, I think there is one in St Johns Apocalypse).

 

[Incomplete]

You would have to ask them what Traditions they think are unbiblical, because even as they argue that everything has to come through the Bible, the Bible itself is Tradition.

 

[redrosetea]

If you can get a copy of Maria Von Trapp’s Land without a Sunday, I think it might be an enjoyable read for you

Her spiritual adviser Fr Wasner, I think it was also wrote several books about customs and Traditions…It makes really lovely reading but they are both out of print

 

[dje101]

Do you mean *Tradition *(the capital T makes a difference) or tradition?

tradition, is like the Rosary, the Divine Office, the current rites of the Mass, vestments, Iconography (such as statues etc) and other devotions, all different rites have slihtly different devotions (even religious communities do, the Franciscans, Benedictines, Jesuits etc all have slightly different devotions and traditions).

one such Tradition I would argue is The Most Holy Trinity, it is never explicitly mentioned or defined in Scripture, but through Tradition. Another one of these such doctrines (well dogmas) is the Assumption of Mary, it derives chiefly from Tradition, and some parts of scripture might hint at it (I’m unsure which verses, I think there is one in St Johns Apocalypse).

AHHH, thanks for the tip on the ‘t’ vs ‘T’ thing. I’ll make sure to remember that one

 

[dje101]

I think that this might fit under this thread…

I took a New Testament class at my college and the teacher said that there are scholars who think the names of the gospels aren’t the names of the actual authors.

With this “scholastic study” thats been done that maybe points to this understanding, why does the church call them the “gospel of St. Mark” etc.

Why are they saints if they don’t even know that Mark was the actual author?

 

[redrosetea]

People become saints for living lives of heroic Christian virtue…this goes way beyond penning a book…It is a life filled with sacrifice and hardship for the love of God…I think all of the 12 but ST John were martyrs