Vatican Archbishop Renews Defense of Motu Proprio

[bones_IV]

Rome, Nov. 26, 2007 (FIDES/CWNews.com) - Archbishop Malcolm Ranjith, the secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship, has renewed his defense of Summorum Pontificum-- and his sharp criticism of Church leaders who have resisted the Pope’s motu proprio-- in a lengthy interview with the Fides news service.
The Pope’s call for broader use of the traditional Latin Mass was not merely an effort to achieve reconciliation with the Society of St. Pius X, “but also a sign for the whole Church with regard to the safeguarding of certain theological-disciplinary principles,” the Sri Lankan archbishop told Fides.
“It appears to me,” Archbishop Ranjith said, “that the Pope is anxious to correct the tendency, visible in certain circles, to see the Council [Vatican II] as a break with the past and a new beginning.” He pointed out that the teachings of Vatican II themselves offer no justification for that attitude.
Vatican II called for reform of the liturgy, the archbishop said, but that reform “must also be faithful to all that went before from the beginning down to our day, nothing excluded.”

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I say give this man the Cardinal’s hat.

 

[Meunke]

This is why I couldn’t be Pope. I would have no tolerance for Bishops that ‘resisted.’ I’d end up finding a spokesman to send to them that was a little like Joe Pesci’s character in “Casino”.

“You see Bishop, I don’t think you understand what it is that I do… I’m coming down there tomorrow morning, and if you’re still tryin’ to stonewall the Holy Father, I’ll bust your head wide open. You understand what I’m sayin’ to you?”

Although it is nice that the Holy Father is making progress on this. God bless him!

 

[pnewton]

I think part of the inertia on the part of bishops must involve the sin of pride. How hard is it to follow simple orders?

 

[bones_IV]

I think part of the inertia on the part of bishops must involve the sin of pride. How hard is it to follow simple orders?

Simple: our society is pagan, materialistic and hedonistic. We need to pray.

 

[Pondero]

I think part of the inertia on the part of bishops must involve the sin of pride. How hard is it to follow simple orders?

I don’t see it as an order from the Pope. However, in the Toronto Archdiocese, the Motu Proprio was printed in full in the Archdiocese website . But, I go to two Catholic churches in Toronto, during the week, and it hasn’t been mentioned once. Most people don’t know anything about it.

Also, the Catholic Register, which I receive weekly, never mentioned it until last week, when some reporter wrote a Youth Section article about the Latin Mass in Ottawa , and it was noted that this Latin Mass had been said ( with permission from the bishop) for many years now. Now, since September 14th one doesn’t have to have permission from the local bishop in order to say the Pius V (Tridentine Mass). All you need is for a group of you ( how many??) to approach the priest and say you would like to have it. And permission will not be refused. The problem may be in finding a priest to say the Mass who is familiar with it.

 

[pnewton]

All you need is for a group of you ( how many??) to approach the priest and say you would like to have it. And permission will not be refused.

If the priest wants to celebrate the TLM, then, no, he does not need permission.

 

[Pondero]

If the priest wants to celebrate the TLM, then, no, he does not need permission.

In my area, the priests have shown no inclination to celebrate the Latin Mass, or even mention it during the sermons.So, it is a non-starter, and the congregation in the pews just slumbers on, totally unaware for the most part of the Motu Proprio.

 

[childofmary1143]

In my area, the priests have shown no inclination to celebrate the Latin Mass, or even mention it during the sermons.So, it is a non-starter, and the congregation in the pews just slumbers on, totally unaware for the most part of the Motu Proprio.

Being from the Toronto area there is the Oratorians that say it at St. Vincent de Paul Church on Roncesvalles.

However I seem to remember the new Archbishop of Toronto slightly misrepresenting what the Pope said just after the Motu Proprio was released. He indicated that permission was still needed.

 

[bones_IV]

Being from the Toronto area there is the Oratorians that say it at St. Vincent de Paul Church on Roncesvalles.

However I seem to remember the new Archbishop of Toronto slightly misrepresenting what the Pope said just after the Motu Proprio was released. He indicated that permission was still needed.

Pray for him.

 

[Pondero]

I am from the Toronto area too childofMary1143 and I am aware that the Latin Mass is said at more than one church. But, my point is that where the Latin Mass is not said, the news of the Motu Proprio has not been widely spread by the Church here.

I didn’t know that Archbishop Collins had slightly misrepresented the contents of the Motu Proprio as you say, in that permission is still needed. Permission is not needed by a bishop, as we know.

I suspect the hierarchy here wants the whole thing to be forgotten, to pass into oblivion, as if the Motu Proprio never happened. In other words my guess is that the Archbishop is not too keen on it. You would have thought that he would have issued a pastoral letter on the subject of the Latin Mass and the Motu Proprio, to be read in all churches, but he did not.

 

[brotherhrolf]

My bishop published a simple one sentence statement in the diocesan newspaper in which he “acknowledged” the Motu Proprio.

 

[Shoshana]

I come from the St Catherines diocese, very close to the Hamilton diocese which is a neighbor of Toronto. I have not heard one thing about motu proprio by my pastor even. And he is very conservative. Although the Tridentine Mass is said at a couple of our churches…one of which I will be going to to tonighht. The Queen of Angels Oratory.

My director doubts that it will be even considered…and maybe only a couple of priests in the whole diocese will say it.