Vatican bans "seers" from spreading "messages" inside Parish of Medjugorje

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"*The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, with an order signed by Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller, has prohibited the Parish Priest, Fra Marinko Sakota and the six supposed visionaries who claim they have been seeing the “Gospa” for 34 years, from delivering testimonies or spreading the “messages” inside the Parish of Medjugorje. This is a very hard blow inflicted on the “Ministry of Propaganda” in Medjugorje, the communication-machine of the supposed visionaries, named such because it is able to send the texts of the “messages”, translated into various languages, almost instantly, to every corner of the world also thanks to the social network and innumerable devotional sites.

This is the umpteenth confirmation, after the prohibition imposed on some of the visionaries from holding public meetings in Italian dioceses, that the recognition of the supposed apparitions is proceeding towards “black smoke”. As has been already anticipated by this Blog last June, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, in light of the final report drafted by the so-called “Ruini Commission” has not recognized the “apparitions” as supernatural. The Vatican ministry led by Cardinal Müller will meet within the next few weeks to formalize its assessment, it being understood that the last word will be left to Pope Francis, who in his turn, has made no mystery, even if veiled, about his skepticism about the authenticity of the Medjugore phenomena. It is however, already possible to anticipate now what the assessment of the Church is going to be. The only concession for Medjugorje will be that it is recognized as a place of prayer, as without doubt, those who go there to receive the Sacraments, do so in good faith.

Anyway, considering the “apparitions” appear to have nothing supernatural about them, the faithful will be prohibited from taking part in “the ecstasies” of the six “visionaries”, and the latter will be forbidden to divulge the texts of the messages they had [apparently] received from Our Lady. Another NO, will regard the Parish of Medjugorje itself, St. James’, which will not become a Marian Sanctuary, as the six visionaries had wanted. It is however probable that the nomination of a Pontifical Legate, who, representing the Pope, will verify respect for the rules at the place. But not only: Bishops should not welcome the “visionaries” in their dioceses for public gatherings and testimonies, as happened until only a short time ago, but limit themselves to assuring that a priest accompany the pilgrims going to Medjugorje. The pilgrims themselves, going to Medjugorje, should not recognize, with their presence, the authenticity of the “apparitions” and should avoid any contact with the “visionaries”, concentrating themselves only on prayer and reception of the Sacraments.

Yet, why so much severity from the Vatican? Primarily for the theological inconsistency of the messages, then for the economic interests of the “visionaries” who have invested in hotels and travel agencies, then for the rivalry that has divided some of them and for the disobedience shown towards both the Bishop of Mostar, (their Diocese) and the Pope, who through the “Ruini Commission” had ordered them in vain, to consign the ten secrets they had [apparently] received from the “Gospa”. One of the key-aspects that forced the Vatican to use an iron-fist is precisely that of money: true visionaries have never been seen to make a profit from their own apparitions. At this point, doubt is licit: do the six “visionaries” of Medjugorje sustain that they see and speak to Our Lady because the alleged apparitions are real or only to call the largest number of pilgrims to travel with their agencies and stay in their hotels?* "

The article can be found here:

rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/09/vatican-bans-seers-from-spreading.html#more
 
Wow…if it’s true that those “visionaries” are benefiting financially by investing in tourist agencies and hotels…that there is rivalry among them…the disobedience towards the Bishop and the Pope…those are troubling reasons to have serious doubts about their visions coming from God…and for what purpose would our Blessed Mother have in appearing for the last 34 years…I can see Lourdes…Fatima… and Guadeloupe as being genuine…but Medjugorje…I’ll believe what the church is saying.
 
This doesn’t surprise me at all…I’ve read some very troubling things about these “visionaries” and their “messages.”
 
Obedience to the legitimate authority of the Church is always in our best interests.

(regardless of how any of us may feel about the matter.)
 
i have been to medjugorgie.i never intended to meet those visionaries .all i wanted was to visit the church and place where the apparition took place.it just so expensive there from taxi ,food and lodging .it has become commercialized. however,it can not be discounted the hundreds of physical and spiritual healings that has been occurring there,since the apparition took place.even non catholics have experienced these miracles.a friend of a friend from Arizona travelled there, due to being crippled w/ arthritis .for years she was struggling to walk and could barely move her arms,due to pain .thought initially that she couldn’t climb the hill ,as it was very perilous for anybody ,of any age,but did it anyway .when she descended ,she was miraculously cured! during their annual reunion ,her colleagues couldn’t believed what they have witnessed,as she was walking normally and pain free.
 
As much as I would like to believe the visionaries, I have a hard time imagining all these seers each have 10 secrets. If there is what, six of them then that is 60 secrets. That’s a lot that could happen in End Times for sure.

There is a video on Youtube that highlights the seers being in “ecstasy” while in the presence of Our Lady. Ecstasy is supposed to be unbreakable and the people engaged do not break concentration or get distracted. In the video I saw, one of the visionaries was easily distracted for a few seconds before jumping back into ecstasy.

I hope the Vatican can investigate and either clear or deny this case very soon.
 
Let’s put this topic aside until we know more about where the Holy See wants to go.

Thanks

Thomas Casey
 
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