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Michael68
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That’s a great point! I seem to forget the spiritual side in these matters!!!Thank You
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Michael68
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I remember that. It was disrespectfu, and I believe Obama is being disrespectful to the Holy Father. I have faith Pope Francis knows what he is doing
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tee_eff_em
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There is a third way.
It is said that years ago, when Mother Teresa was invited to a National Prayer Breakfast, she took the opportunity to point her finger at President Clinton and admonish: “Stop killing babies.”
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ProdglArchitect
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I like this one. Maybe the Holy Father will drop the friendly face once he’s in the Dining Room with them and make his position known with undeniable clarity.
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twopekinguys
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Who better to witness to sinners, than the Vicar of Christ!!
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estesbob
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Except it won’t work that way. What you’ll see is a multitude of pictures taken of the pontiff with these people along with commentary that it is proof positive that the pope is about to change Catholic doctrine on homosexuality .
All Catholics should be outraged at the disrespect shown that the Vicar of Christ. Have seen nothing like this when otherworldly visited . For instance when the leader of Saudi Arabia visited the White House Obama did not invite women who are protesting the way women are treated in Saudi Arabia.g
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twopekinguys
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In no way did I say, or insinuate that I agreed with the guest list. I am merely pointing out that our beloved Pope would be the best one to witness to them, and show them the error of their was.
With that being said, it was mentioned earlier, Christ dined with sinners of various types.
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7_Sorrows
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That would be something for the Vatican to cancel the visit. What an insult by the White House.I agree. Obama has done his best to offend and belittle every religious group except one, and now he wants to insult our Pope. I pray the Vatican sees through this and just cancels the White House visit.
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7_Sorrows
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I agree!
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John_Martin
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One Sabbath, when he went to dine at the house of a ruler of the Pharisees, they were watching him carefully… (Luke 14)
He also gave an evening of conversation to Nicodemus.
No worries… we all confess, “I believe in the Holy Spirit…”
He also gave an evening of conversation to Nicodemus.
No worries… we all confess, “I believe in the Holy Spirit…”
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estesbob
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It all one had to depend on was social media instead of Scripture they would believe that Jesus 's entire ministry consisted of throwing dinner parties for sinners.
The problem here is not who he is having dinner with- the problem is the direct and open insult to our pope by the president of United States.
The problem here is not who he is having dinner with- the problem is the direct and open insult to our pope by the president of United States.
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Catholic1954
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That may be true, however THIS garbage was outside the back door of the White House and an official visitor was escorted by it because the President was more concerned by offending the Chinese than the Dali Lama, his guest.
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HCTC
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Fifteen hundred people have been invited to the arrival ceremony for Pope Francis on the south lawn of the White House. Given that this a very diverse nation and that His Holiness is beloved, I am not surprised that there might be a number of LGBT individuals among the guests.
In my humble opinion, the uncharitable, partisan evaluations posted on this forum of President Obama who is one of the people that Pope Francis is traveling so far to meet are regrettable. Our time would be better spent trying to support Pope Francis’ stated desire:
“May no one miss the witness of our faith, of our love. May all the world know that God always forgives, that God is always with us, that God loves us.”
In my humble opinion, the uncharitable, partisan evaluations posted on this forum of President Obama who is one of the people that Pope Francis is traveling so far to meet are regrettable. Our time would be better spent trying to support Pope Francis’ stated desire:
“May no one miss the witness of our faith, of our love. May all the world know that God always forgives, that God is always with us, that God loves us.”
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Horton
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I have no doubt that our beloved Pope Francis will handle the issue with grace & dignity. I have far less confidence in the media to report it without a biased spin.
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HCTC
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I mistakenly wrote that 1500 people had been invited when I meant to write 15,000. The number just boggles my mind…
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badnewsbarrett
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The Pope is doing something at the White House in the near future.
And the President of the United States is also doing something at the White House in the near future.
Seems to me that the President could have done a lot of things- but, broadly speaking, he could have decided to act more like a Catholic for a few days or he could have decided to act more like himself. He’s acting more like himself, and the guest list is an honest portrayal of the people he cares about and supports, many of whom have a minority status of some kind.
It wasn’t too long ago that Pope Francis was talking about how he has so many friends now, people that he’s met once or twice, but the vast majority of them are not real friends and they constantly use that association to their advantage. Fake people who pretend at something in order to use a very powerful man to their advantage- this is what the Pope mostly sees every day. What we have here is another powerful man who’s decided to be more honest, and as long as the President doesn’t attempt to manipulate the Pope (which is possible- it might happen, it might not), I think Pope Francis will find a way to say that the honesty is refreshing, in a way. Of course, when “the Vatican says” something, that doesn’t necessarily mean Pope Francis is saying it personally. I would not be terribly surprised if this article about what “the Vatican says” winds up being noticeably different from the behavior and statements that Pope Francis personally puts out there.
It is a challenge, in a way, but it’s not necessarily a forceful or malicious challenge. I, for one, am curious to see how all of this will go.
And the President of the United States is also doing something at the White House in the near future.
Seems to me that the President could have done a lot of things- but, broadly speaking, he could have decided to act more like a Catholic for a few days or he could have decided to act more like himself. He’s acting more like himself, and the guest list is an honest portrayal of the people he cares about and supports, many of whom have a minority status of some kind.
It wasn’t too long ago that Pope Francis was talking about how he has so many friends now, people that he’s met once or twice, but the vast majority of them are not real friends and they constantly use that association to their advantage. Fake people who pretend at something in order to use a very powerful man to their advantage- this is what the Pope mostly sees every day. What we have here is another powerful man who’s decided to be more honest, and as long as the President doesn’t attempt to manipulate the Pope (which is possible- it might happen, it might not), I think Pope Francis will find a way to say that the honesty is refreshing, in a way. Of course, when “the Vatican says” something, that doesn’t necessarily mean Pope Francis is saying it personally. I would not be terribly surprised if this article about what “the Vatican says” winds up being noticeably different from the behavior and statements that Pope Francis personally puts out there.
It is a challenge, in a way, but it’s not necessarily a forceful or malicious challenge. I, for one, am curious to see how all of this will go.
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FollowChrist34
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A biased spin reflected in the gesture itself. That is the point. The Obama administration is serving its constituency in the form of the LGBT cause here. What is the difference between this and the Pope asking to be photographed with Kim Davis and Obama.
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antihippy79
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Obama is satanic. He bows to tyrants and he ignores dissidents in Cuba when he sent his minion Kerry to bow before Castro. The Pope is not given the same respect as Casto of course. But then again, would Peter expect anything less from this modern Caesar in our Rome?
Persecution of the western church is in sight.
Persecution of the western church is in sight.
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