Vatican fine-tunes details of the Mass and upsets parishioners

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As a woman, the whole loss of a woman’s role thing is such a joke! Just because men are called to do things I am not called to do doesn’t make me unequal in importance! I am not suppose to be a priest, I don’t want to be a priest!
I am thankful that Rome is cracking down on us. I am so sick of seeing individual Catholicism. This isn’t Burger King, you can’t order it your way. Let me rephase, you can in some dioceses but you SHOULDN"T be able to.
 
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Catholicforlife:
As a woman, the whole loss of a woman’s role thing is such a joke! Just because men are called to do things I am not called to do doesn’t make me unequal in importance! I am not suppose to be a priest, I don’t want to be a priest!
I am thankful that Rome is cracking down on us. I am so sick of seeing individual Catholicism. This isn’t Burger King, you can’t order it your way. Let me rephase, you can in some dioceses but you SHOULDN"T be able to.
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Hey…I like the way you think 👍
 
I like it how it is the VATICAN doing the changes but not the liturgical abusers that did the changes that required the crackdown.
 
From RS

[6.] For abuses “contribute to the obscuring of the Catholic faith and doctrine concerning this wonderful sacrament”.[14] Thus, they also hinder the faithful from “re-living in a certain way the experience of the two disciples of Emmaus: ‘and their eyes were opened, and they recognized him’”.[15] For in the presence of God’s power and divinity[16] and the splendour of his goodness, made manifest especially in the Sacrament of the Eucharist, it is fitting that all the faithful should have and put into practice that power of acknowledging God’s majesty that they have received through the saving Passion of the Only-Begotten Son.[17]

[7.] Not infrequently, abuses are rooted in a false understanding of liberty. Yet God has not granted us in Christ an illusory liberty by which we may do what we wish, but a liberty by which we may do that which is fitting and right.[18] This is true not only of precepts coming directly from God, but also of laws promulgated by the Church, with appropriate regard for the nature of each norm. For this reason, all should conform to the ordinances set forth by legitimate ecclesiastical authority.

[8.] It is therefore to be noted with great sadness that “ecumenical initiatives which are well-intentioned, nevertheless indulge at times in Eucharistic practices contrary to the discipline by which the Church expresses her faith”. Yet the Eucharist “is too great a gift to tolerate ambiguity or depreciation”. It is therefore necessary that some things be corrected or more clearly delineated so that in this respect as well “the Eucharist will continue to shine forth in all its radiant mystery”.[19]
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[9.] Finally, abuses are often based on ignorance, in that they involve a rejection of those elements whose deeper meaning is not understood and whose antiquity is not recognized**. For “the liturgical prayers, orations and songs are pervaded by the inspiration and impulse” of the Sacred Scriptures themselves, “and it is from these that the actions and signs receive their meaning”.[20] As for the visible signs “which the Sacred Liturgy uses in order to signify the invisible divine realities, they have been chosen by Christ or by the Church”.[21] Finally, the structures and forms of the sacred celebrations according to each of the Rites of both East and West are in harmony with the practice of the universal Church also as regards practices received universally from apostolic and unbroken tradition,[22] which it is the Church’s task to transmit faithfully and carefully to future generations. All these things are wisely safeguarded and protected by the liturgical norms.
 
[10.] The Church herself has no power over those things which were established by Christ himself and which constitute an unchangeable part of the Liturgy.[23] Indeed, if the bond were to be broken which the Sacraments have with Christ himself who instituted them, and with the events of the Church’s founding,[24] it would not be beneficial to the faithful but rather would do them grave harm. For the Sacred Liturgy is quite intimately connected with principles of doctrine,[25] so that the use of unapproved texts and rites necessarily leads either to the attenuation or to the disappearance of that necessary link between the lex orandi and the lex credendi.[26]

[11.] **The Mystery of the Eucharist “is too great for anyone to permit himself to treat it according to his own whim, so that its sacredness and its universal ordering would be obscured”.[27] On the contrary, anyone who acts thus by giving free reign to his own inclinations, even if he is a Priest, injures the substantial unity of the Roman Rite, which ought to be vigorously preserved,[28] and becomes responsible for actions that are in no way consistent with the hunger and thirst for the living God that is experienced by the people today. Nor do such actions serve authentic pastoral care or proper liturgical renewal; instead, they deprive Christ’s faithful of their patrimony and their heritage. For arbitrary actions are not conducive to true renewal,[29] but are detrimental to the right of Christ’s faithful to a liturgical celebration that is an expression of the Church’s life in accordance with her tradition and discipline. In the end, they introduce elements of distortion and disharmony into the very celebration of the Eucharist, which is oriented in its own lofty way and by its very nature to signifying and wondrously bringing about the communion of divine life and the unity of the People of God.[30] The result is uncertainty in matters of doctrine, perplexity and scandal on the part of the People of God, and, almost as a necessary consequence, vigorous opposition, all of which greatly confuse and sadden many of Christ’s faithful in this age of ours when Christian life is often particularly difficult on account of the inroads of “secularization” as well.[31]

[12.] On the contrary, it is the right of all of Christ’s faithful that the Liturgy, and in particular the celebration of Holy Mass, should truly be as the Church wishes, according to her stipulations as prescribed in the liturgical books and in the other laws and norms. Likewise, the Catholic people have the right that the Sacrifice of the Holy Mass should be celebrated for them in an integral manner, according to the entire doctrine of the Church’s Magisterium. Finally, it is the Catholic community’s right that the celebration of the Most Holy Eucharist should be carried out for it in such a manner that it truly stands out as a sacrament of unity, to the exclusion of all blemishes and actions that might engender divisions and factions in the Church.[32]**
 
169.] Whenever an abuse is committed in the celebration of the sacred Liturgy, it is to be seen as a real falsification of Catholic Liturgy. St Thomas wrote, “the vice of falsehood is perpetrated by anyone who offers worship to God on behalf of the Church in a manner contrary to that which is established by the Church with divine authority, and to which the Church is accustomed”.[278]

Complete text of Redemtionis Sacramentum - scroll down
 
[18.] Christ’s faithful have the right that ecclesiastical authority should fully and efficaciously regulate the Sacred Liturgy lest it should ever seem to be “anyone’s private property, whether of the celebrant or of the community in which the mysteries are celebrated”[38].

Essentially the faithful have the right to a true liturgy. It belongs to the whole church and cannot be changed by anyone.
 
I am not called to do doesn’t make me unequal in importance!
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Thats right - there is one thing we do that men can’t but we couldn’t do it without their assistance - and that is procreation and childbirth - Viva the difference - lets celebrate it and not compete.
 
Amen a thousand times a thousand. If I wanted watered down Christianity, I would not have converted. Give me 100% orthodox Catholicism.
 
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ByzCath:
Its funny how people can be sometimes.

They were never to be called “eucharistic ministers”. If you read the original documents where this thing was first allowed they were always called Extraordinary Eucharistic Ministers because the Ordinary Eucharistic Ministers are the bishop, priest, and deacon.

Isn’t funny how terms that we use, even when they are wrong, if used long enough become the right term?
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They were never “first allowed”. This is another example, like women lectors etc, that began as an abuse, spread to many parishes, and then - because of a serious lack of disipline in the Church today - became a “norm”. Pray for our magisterium.

MrS
 
My literal first reaction to the news that the Vatican are FINALLY cracking down on liberals was:

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In short, this makes me verrrrrry happy :angel1:
 
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Catholicforlife:
As a woman, the whole loss of a woman’s role thing is such a joke! Just because men are called to do things I am not called to do doesn’t make me unequal in importance! I am not suppose to be a priest, I don’t want to be a priest!
I am thankful that Rome is cracking down on us. I am so sick of seeing individual Catholicism. This isn’t Burger King, you can’t order it your way. Let me rephase, you can in some dioceses but you SHOULDN"T be able to.
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I like the Burger King example because I often use McDonalds to illustrate why we should go back to Latin Mass and/or enforce standards. Anywhere you go in the world there are McDonalds and when you order a Big Mac you know exactly what you are getting. Going to Mass wherever you are should be the same.
 
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