Vatican II and Eastern Rites

[Neil_Anthony]

Did the Eastern Rites liturgies get reformed at Vatican II? If not, why not? Wasn’t Vatican II a ecumenical council, including bishops from ALL the Churches Rites?

 

[wynd]

Did the Eastern Rites liturgies get reformed at Vatican II? If not, why not? Wasn’t Vatican II a ecumenical council, including bishops from ALL the Churches Rites?

Vatican II didn’t mandate liturgical reform. The Novus Ordo mass was instituted years after the council closed.

 

[Neil_Anthony]

Vatican II didn’t mandate liturgical reform. The Novus Ordo mass was instituted years after the council closed.

there was a constitution on the liturgy in vatican II

 

[Taboric_Light]

there was a constitution on the liturgy in vatican II

Councils of the Church, ecumenical or otherwise, recognize the legitimate traditions of individual rites. Sacrosanctum Concilium was, at the very least, primarily for the Latin rite. Eastern rites are not suppose to abandon their liturgical tradition simply because a council decrees something liturgical for another rite.

However, there has been a change in Eastern liturgies since Vatican II. They are becoming more and more de-latinized and returning to their proper liturgical tradition. The Vatican has greatly encouraged them to do this.

In Christ through Mary

 

[Neil_Anthony]

Councils of the Church, ecumenical or otherwise, recognize the legitimate traditions of individual rites. Sacrosanctum Concilium was, at the very least, primarily for the Latin rite. Eastern rites are not suppose to abandon their liturgical tradition simply because a council decrees something liturgical for another rite.

However, there has been a change in Eastern liturgies since Vatican II. They are becoming more and more de-latinized and returning to their proper liturgical tradition. The Vatican has greatly encouraged them to do this.

In Christ through Mary

I see. Isn’t it a bit strange that a ecumenical council would focus so much attention on just one rite? Weird

 

[Taboric_Light]

Yeah, weird, but also cool. For instance, the 7th ecumenical council, generally, isn’t as important to Latins as it is to EC because the West didn’t have a problem with iconoclasm (though that may not be the case now). However, thanks to that council I know that sacred images are more than just a picture of grandma. The triumph of a controversy in one part of the Church is beneficial to whole the Church. Very cool, indeed.

 

[wynd]

there was a constitution on the liturgy in vatican II

So? I’ve read the Constitution. It doesn’t specify “Here’s the new text for the eucharistic prayer” or say “Priests will now face the people when saying Mass.” The things that it does specify mostly pertain to the Latin rite.

 

[brittrossiter]

Did the Eastern Rites liturgies get reformed at Vatican II? If not, why not? Wasn’t Vatican II a ecumenical council, including bishops from ALL the Churches Rites?

To address the OP’s original question, If I recall correctly, the Eastern Churches after Vatican II were encouraged to move away from “Latinizations” that had crept into their liturgies.

(If I don’t recall correctly, then I am sure someone will correct me. )

 

[Aramis]

To address the OP’s original question, If I recall correctly, the Eastern Churches after Vatican II were encouraged to move away from “Latinizations” that had crept into their liturgies.

(If I don’t recall correctly, then I am sure someone will correct me. )

Yes, the postconciliar documents do instruct quite a bit to return to tradition, for men marrying byzantine women to go east, etc. These are the result of bodies established by the council itself.