Vatican II documents

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Seeing as it’s the Year of Faith and the anniversary of the opening of Vatican II, this seems like a good time to start reading through the conciliar documents. Does anyone know of a good print edition? I know where I can find the texts online, but I can’t bear to sit and stare at a computer monitor that long, and I don’t want to print them all out.
 
I have Vatican CouncilII: Constitutions, Decrees and Declarations. Edited by Austin Flannery OP. Costello Publishing. 1996.

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mikelionheart said:
I have Vatican CouncilII: Constitutions, Decrees and Declarations. Edited by Austin Flannery OP. Costello Publishing. 1996.

This is a great idea for a thread, or a series of threads.

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Indeed it is. I just finished working my way through Lumen Gentium, and it was quite the experience. 👍

I have the same translation as you, if I’m not mistaken. Easy reading, but it does include (pun not intended!) some “inclusive language” if I’m not mistaken. 😉
 
There are basically 2 main translators and 3 main versions. Here they are in order of my personal preference:


  1. *]Flannery translation
    *]Abbott translation
    *]Flannery translation (revised with inclusive language)

    The Abbot translation came out first, and, IMO, it is less accurate as a result. And making a translation specifically to incorporate inclusive language seldom improves a translation. I think it’s worth tracking down a used copy of the old Flannery translation.

    I have created a reading plan for reading through the 16 documents in a year (vaticantwo.wordpress.com). Feel free to use it if it helps. I tried to divide it so that one would be reading about 1 page in the Flannery edition per day. I made a flyer that people can print out and use offline.
 
Hmm, Would that be Austin Flannery, Dublin, Ireland?

It appears the Irish are still saving civilisation!
 
A deacon here on CAF recommended “A Concise guide to the Documents of Vatican II” by Edward P. Hahnenberg before digging into the documents themselves.

The book goes over the background to each document including preparation of the initial drafts, revisions or wholesale reworking of the drafts, major points of debate on each during the council and in some cases, intervention by the Pope which was sometimes required to move things along. It is really fascinating to read as background to each document.

bks3.books.google.com/books?id=pGanAAAACAAJ&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&imgtk=AFLRE73uylQMKQCUfx5y4SOFJ0gWiEwk6Oveh7UqwtQamQ3XIiZt2cIA0Dc5CJCXxHuI88jD11ZNg0-YXMeGazyWKhZy6wsNNYwZM2pYrLw9Pb_fPSuOeRH9G6Ma5YLgIf6wgvsKtqqH

I was glad I bought it.

-Tim-
 
RPRPsych said:
…it does include (pun not intended!) some “inclusive language” if I’m not mistaken. 😉
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I’ve come across that edition, but anytime I hear “inclusive language” in this sort of context, I get a little nervous. In what way is the language inclusive?
 
SammyJankis90 said:
I’ve come across that edition, but anytime I hear “inclusive language” in this sort of context, I get a little nervous. In what way is the language inclusive?
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I think it’s fairly innocuous from what I’ve read so far - “all men and women” or “all people” when a reference to the faithful is made. No tampering with the Scriptural or other source texts, at least from what I can see.
 
RPRPsych said:
I think it’s fairly innocuous from what I’ve read so far - “all men and women” or “all people” when a reference to the faithful is made. No tampering with the Scriptural or other source texts, at least from what I can see.
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Okay, that’s good to know. Kind of a moot point, though, as the cheapest I can find it is around $40. I think I’ll stick with the $10 Kindle version haha
 
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