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lemonbeam
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The pope is innocent of any wrong doing. Every attempted smear story they throw at him falls short. All you have to do is read the details. For example; in Munich we’re talking about one case, wherein somebody beneath him transferred an accused priest without his knowledge or consent. Then in the case of Milwaukee, again we are talking about one accused priest, who could not be prosecuted by civil authorities and the charges were dropped. Then while the Archbishop was the one and only man who could have done anything, he decided to punt the case to the Vatican instead, where it was delayed for months. Finally, when a response was given, it was given not by Cardinal Ratzinger (currently Pope Benedict XVI), but by somebody completely different, recommending the trial be canceled since the accused priest was dying. He died four months later. Once again, the responsibility lay at the Archbishop of Milwaukee’s feet, because he alone was the only one who had evidence to defrock the accused priest, and yet he tried to pass the buck instead.
That’s it! That’s all the liberal mainstream media has! That is their whole case! Yet with that, they are trying to implicate the pope in some sort of trial by newspaper in which they alone play the judge, jury and executioner.
Since the mainstream news media refuses to do their jobs, let us in the blogosphere once again do it for them. Here are the facts…
FACT #1
The Catholic Church has ALWAYS taught that sexual abuse of minors is a damnable sin, of the worst kind, in which Jesus Christ himself said it would be better for someone who does this to tie a millstone around his neck and be thrown into the deepest part of the sea. Catholics involved in sexual abuse have not only failed in morality, but they have also failed in Catholicism, in that they are not practicing the Catholic Christian faith at all.
FACT #2
The total number of all priests accused of sexual abuse of minors is less than 5% of all Catholic clergy. That means more than 95% of Catholic clergy have never been accused and are doing their jobs correctly, living quiet and holy lives in service to their parishes.
FACT #3
In spite of what people say about clerical celibacy being a “cause” of these problems, actual statistics indicate that the majority of sex-abuse of minors is perpetrated by married men; step-fathers, uncles, cousins and live-in boyfriends. Statistically speaking, being a celibate man in the Catholic priesthood actually REDUCES your odds of sexually abusing minors. That’s just a matter of statistical FACT.
FACT #4
In the overwhelming vast majority of cases where sexual abuse was reported in the Catholic Church, the alleged victim was a male between the ages of 12 and 18. Victims younger than 12 were almost never reported, and sexual abuse of females was also rare. This is not the clinical definition of pedophilia. It is however a type of predatory homosexuality that seeks to take advantage of underage young men. Therefore the term “pedophile priests” is a misnomer and not based on hard statistical data. A more accurate term should be “predatory homosexual priests.”
FACT #5
Homosexual men are not allowed to become priests in the Catholic Church. In order for a homosexual to become a priest he must lie about his homosexuality just to get into seminary and remain “in the closet” indefinitely. If he is ever discovered to be gay, he would be fired and laicized (defrocked).
FACT #6
Sexual abuse of minors is slightly higher in Protestant churches according to data released by insurance agencies that underwrite them.
FACT #7
Sexual abuse of minors is significantly higher in non-religious institutions that deal with children, particularly public schools, where according to a U.S. government report, a child is literally over 100 times more likely to be molested in a public school than in a Catholic church.
FACT #8
The reforms implemented in the US Catholic Church after the sex-abuse scandal of 2002-2003 have been hailed by child protective services as the most comprehensive ever seen in a public institution and have been cited as a model for other institutions to follow.
catholicknight.blogspot.com/2010/03/pope-to-be-crucified-this-easter.html
That’s it! That’s all the liberal mainstream media has! That is their whole case! Yet with that, they are trying to implicate the pope in some sort of trial by newspaper in which they alone play the judge, jury and executioner.
Since the mainstream news media refuses to do their jobs, let us in the blogosphere once again do it for them. Here are the facts…
FACT #1
The Catholic Church has ALWAYS taught that sexual abuse of minors is a damnable sin, of the worst kind, in which Jesus Christ himself said it would be better for someone who does this to tie a millstone around his neck and be thrown into the deepest part of the sea. Catholics involved in sexual abuse have not only failed in morality, but they have also failed in Catholicism, in that they are not practicing the Catholic Christian faith at all.
FACT #2
The total number of all priests accused of sexual abuse of minors is less than 5% of all Catholic clergy. That means more than 95% of Catholic clergy have never been accused and are doing their jobs correctly, living quiet and holy lives in service to their parishes.
FACT #3
In spite of what people say about clerical celibacy being a “cause” of these problems, actual statistics indicate that the majority of sex-abuse of minors is perpetrated by married men; step-fathers, uncles, cousins and live-in boyfriends. Statistically speaking, being a celibate man in the Catholic priesthood actually REDUCES your odds of sexually abusing minors. That’s just a matter of statistical FACT.
FACT #4
In the overwhelming vast majority of cases where sexual abuse was reported in the Catholic Church, the alleged victim was a male between the ages of 12 and 18. Victims younger than 12 were almost never reported, and sexual abuse of females was also rare. This is not the clinical definition of pedophilia. It is however a type of predatory homosexuality that seeks to take advantage of underage young men. Therefore the term “pedophile priests” is a misnomer and not based on hard statistical data. A more accurate term should be “predatory homosexual priests.”
FACT #5
Homosexual men are not allowed to become priests in the Catholic Church. In order for a homosexual to become a priest he must lie about his homosexuality just to get into seminary and remain “in the closet” indefinitely. If he is ever discovered to be gay, he would be fired and laicized (defrocked).
FACT #6
Sexual abuse of minors is slightly higher in Protestant churches according to data released by insurance agencies that underwrite them.
FACT #7
Sexual abuse of minors is significantly higher in non-religious institutions that deal with children, particularly public schools, where according to a U.S. government report, a child is literally over 100 times more likely to be molested in a public school than in a Catholic church.
FACT #8
The reforms implemented in the US Catholic Church after the sex-abuse scandal of 2002-2003 have been hailed by child protective services as the most comprehensive ever seen in a public institution and have been cited as a model for other institutions to follow.
catholicknight.blogspot.com/2010/03/pope-to-be-crucified-this-easter.html
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Beau_Ouiville
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I don’t think that this: "He answered by making reference to a communiqué from the Archdiocese of Munich this morning. The communiqué states: “The article in the New York Times contains no new information beyond that which the archdiocese has already communicated concerning the then archbishop’s knowledge of the situation of Father H.”
supports this: "Father Lombardi thus confirmed that the Munich Archdiocese rejects any version of events that attributes knowledge of the case to Archbishop Ratzinger, calling it “mere speculation.”
There’s a logical fallacy in there somewhere. The archdiocese said that the Times came up with nothing new. So how does that mean the archdiocese has refuted anything?
The headline here is wrong. The Vatican has not noted any ‘mere speculation’, it is *alleging *mere speculation by the Times.
supports this: "Father Lombardi thus confirmed that the Munich Archdiocese rejects any version of events that attributes knowledge of the case to Archbishop Ratzinger, calling it “mere speculation.”
There’s a logical fallacy in there somewhere. The archdiocese said that the Times came up with nothing new. So how does that mean the archdiocese has refuted anything?
The headline here is wrong. The Vatican has not noted any ‘mere speculation’, it is *alleging *mere speculation by the Times.
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lemonbeam
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That’s the title from zenit.comI don’t think that this: "He answered by making reference to a communiqué from the Archdiocese of Munich this morning. The communiqué states: “The article in the New York Times contains no new information beyond that which the archdiocese has already communicated concerning the then archbishop’s knowledge of the situation of Father H.”
supports this: "Father Lombardi thus confirmed that the Munich Archdiocese rejects any version of events that attributes knowledge of the case to Archbishop Ratzinger, calling it “mere speculation.”
There’s a logical fallacy in there somewhere. The archdiocese said that the Times came up with nothing new. So how does that mean the archdiocese has refuted anything?
The headline here is wrong. The Vatican has not noted any ‘mere speculation’, it is *alleging *mere speculation by the Times.
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Beau_Ouiville
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Then that headline is not supported by the facts. Is the site non-partisan or does it have an axe to grind?That’s the title from zenit.com
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lemonbeam
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''ZENIT is a non-profit international news agency comprising a team of professionals and volunteers who are convinced of the extraordinary richness of the Catholic Church’s message, particularly its social doctrine. The ZENIT team sees this message as a light for understanding today’s world.Then that headline is not supported by the facts. Is the site non-partisan or does it have an axe to grind?
At the same time, we are aware that this richness is little known in the information world. This motivates us to strive to bring this message to the Internet, in the greatest possible number of languages.
Our objective is to inform about the “world seen from Rome,” with professionalism and faithfulness to the truth. We aim to view the modern world through the messages of the Pope and the Holy See; tell about the happenings of the Church; and inform about the topics, debates and events that are especially interesting to Christians worldwide. ZENIT carries out this service independently.’’
zenit.org/page-0101?l=english
Read the other articles on the Catholic news forum, showing the New York times failed to tell you a lot of facts in their articles.
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Beau_Ouiville
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Well, my opinion is that the recent criticisms of the Times seem kind of thin, particularly as to the editorial which mentioned Cardinal Egan.Read the other articles on the Catholic news forum, showing the New York times failed to tell you a lot of facts in their articles.
Myself, I concentrate more on the facts of the abuse than this sniping around the edges about details.
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Adeodatus
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You’ve actually never heard of zenit.com?Then that headline is not supported by the facts. Is the site non-partisan or does it have an axe to grind?
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Beau_Ouiville
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Nope. Never had until now.You’ve actually never heard of zenit.com?
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anode
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documents.nytimes.com/reverend-lawrence-c-murphy-abuse-case#document/p29Well, my opinion is that the recent criticisms of the Times seem kind of thin, particularly as to the editorial which mentioned Cardinal Egan.
Myself, I concentrate more on the facts of the abuse than this sniping around the edges about details.
Beau, here’s the link to 86 pages of documents in the Milwaukee scandal.
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Adeodatus
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I hope that you will read it frequently. I think you would find it very profitable.Nope. Never had until now.
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Beau_Ouiville
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Sorry, I went there and it is a partisan news site. I don’t read those sites on the left wing, right wing or any other political view. I like my information to be much more straight-forward.I hope that you will read it frequently. I think you would find it very profitable.
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lemonbeam
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What news sources would they be? You are not going to get the majority of Catholic news from the Vatican or anywhere else from mainstream news.Sorry, I went there and it is a partisan news site. I don’t read those sites on the left wing, right wing or any other political view. I like my information to be much more straight-forward.
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