Vatican Official's words and what about "Same-Sex Unions"?

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Thank you for posting the article. I am constantly chewing on what it means to hate the sin and love the sinner.

May God bless us all as we remain charitable in our speech. I do think this is a topic that should continue to be discussed no matter how many times it has been brought up.
 
Thank you. My questions have been answered. Afterall, this is a Catholic Forum, I thank Elizabeth502 and GeorgeStegmeir for not reading the original article, usurping the words of a Vatican official speaking on this and making their own points about denigrating this subject matter when Catholic Press posted it here: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=753139 It does demonstrate that people including me often don’t read articles and just start talking about a subject.:mad:

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After all, this is the Catholic Philosophy section, why clear up what an Archbishop in Rome said? That’s so off topic.
 
The emboldened part sounds like recognition of a Union however. Interesting.
BW: I do not agree that his comments sound like recognition of a Union. Recognition of two people living a sinful lifestyle that should have certain rights seems more plausible.
 
Note this paragraph, the emboldened part in my view, almost looks like it would pertain to at least what are called “Unions” nowadays. “Same Sex Unions” at that.

What does one think of this? I would urge those interested to read the short article as I only took one paragraph out of context as the purpose of this thread.

The whole story is about the Archbishop’s words being “misunderstood” when reported in the press, however, it is interesting that here, he seems to echo at least, what some gay rights advocates want. I have often heard same-sex marriage advocates say they just want the same rights to visit in the hospital, social security benefits, taxation, insurance, inheritance rights and those things as their call for equal rights. In other words, Spousal Benefits.

I’ll leave it at that but welcome any responses… because sometimes we get the straight, “it’s a sinful lifestyle”, we should in no way sanction it, this view seems more popular with some Fundamentalist types I would say who yes, at times, do go overboard and it might appear a bit stern when listening to their words such as a commentator like Bryan Fischer. Then again, perhaps this Archbishop is largely voicing his own personal view.

I somewhat agree with his terminology AND that same sex unions should never be called Marriage as that should be only between a man and a woman.
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This is interesting…

The report is a report and I notice that there are things that were said and quoted and things that are said and not quoted…
The archbishop also said the church’s affirmation of the full dignity of all human beings led him to oppose laws that outlaw homosexuality. In addition, he said that “to promote justice and to protect the weak,” greater efforts were needed to ensure legal protection and inheritance rights for people living together, though not married. “But do not call it marriage,” he said.
I see that the reporter paraphrased and quoted…so I really do not know what the Archbishop said other than what was quoted…
“to promote justice and to protect the weak,”
“But do not call it marriage,” he said
I believe we can all agree that we should promote justice and protect the week and whatever the archbishop is talking about we would not call anything a homosexual unites in as marriage…

Now concerning the paraphrase as noted without quotes, I cannot be sure what the thoughts of the Archbishop truly are other than what the reporter paraphrased and put in between quotes…
The archbishop also said the church’s affirmation of the full dignity of all human beings led him to oppose laws that outlaw homosexuality. In addition, he said that
Both of these statements are without quotes and are paraphrased.
greater efforts were needed to ensure legal protection and inheritance rights for people living together, though not married.
In consideration that there are quotes and paraphrases the best that can be said is as summarized at the end of the article and any discussion concerning this report should be viewed as summarized…

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“Obviously, I was very surprised by how some media reported” those comments, he told Vatican Radio. “Not only were my words not understood,” he said, “they were derailed, perhaps even knowingly.”
There may be some derailing in the Archbishops thoughts as noted and any discussion concerning what the Archbishop truly meant will have to wait for clarity…you are welcome to have an opinion and conjecture and speculate however it would be pure specualtion.🙂
 
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This suggests that the Archbishop may have been quoted out of context and those that believe that there is a notion of support for same sex unions, etc have been misled…
Nor is the argument valid according to which legal recognition of homosexual unions is necessary to avoid situations in which cohabiting homosexual persons, simply because they live together, might be deprived of real recognition of their rights as persons and citizens. In reality, they can always make use of the provisions of law – like all citizens from the standpoint of their private autonomy – to protect their rights in matters of common interest. It would be gravely unjust to sacrifice the common good and just laws on the family in order to protect personal goods that can and must be guaranteed in ways that do not harm the body of society.
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  1. The Church teaches that respect for homosexual persons cannot lead in any way to approval of homosexual behaviour or to legal recognition of homosexual unions. The common good requires that laws recognize, promote and protect marriage as the basis of the family, the primary unit of society. Legal recognition of homosexual unions or placing them on the same level as marriage would mean not only the approval of deviant behaviour, with the consequence of making it a model in present-day society, but would also obscure basic values which belong to the common inheritance of humanity. The Church cannot fail to defend these values, for the good of men and women and for the good of society itself.
This would confirm what the Archbishop concluded and should be taken into account…🙂
“Obviously, I was very surprised by how some media reported” those comments, he told Vatican Radio. “Not only were my words not understood,” he said, “they were derailed, perhaps even knowingly.”
 
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