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**Vatican rebuffs Muslim outreach: Quran cited as the main obstacle **

By Abdus Sattar Ghazali

Vatican has rebuffed a massive outreach effort by 138 Muslim religious leaders and scholars who sent a letter to Pope Benedict XVI in an attempt to improve Christian-Muslim relations.

The letter, titled “A Common Word Between Us and You,” which is also addressed to Christianity’s other most powerful leaders, including the Archbishop of Canterbury and the heads of the Lutheran, Methodist and Baptist churches, seeks to recognize similarities between Islam and Christianity as a way of fostering mutual understanding and respect between the two religions.

It compares texts from the Bible and the Koran to argue that Christians and Muslims worship the same God. Both believe in “the primacy of total love and devotion to God,” and both value love of neighbor and a peaceful world.

In a belated response to the Oct. 13 letter, Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran, President of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue in the Roman Curia, told the French Catholic daily La Croix, on Friday (Oct. 26) that a real theological debate with Muslims was difficult as they saw the Quran as the literal word of God. “Muslims do not accept that one can discuss the Quran in depth, because they say it was written by dictation from God. With such an absolute interpretation, it is difficult to discuss the contents of faith.”

Another reading of his comments suggests that the Vatican does not want a dialogue with Muslims unless they change their belief in Quran as a revealed book. Like most Christian theologians, the Muslims have to believe that sacred scriptures are the work of divinely inspired humans.

Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran’s comments echo Pope Benedict’s statement. In the summer of 2005, Pope Benedict devoted an annual weekend of study with former graduate students to Islam. During the meeting he reportedly expressed skepticism about Islam’s openness to change given the conviction that the Quran is the unchangeable word of God.

Vatican response to the Muslim outreach is significant because in his Regensburg, Germany, speech last year Pope Benedict implied that Islam was violent and irrational religion. His remarks sparked bloody protests in the Muslim world and prompted the Muslim scholars to unite to seek better inter-faith understanding.

Pope Benedict recently re-established an office for interfaith dialogue that he had shuttered, but the Roman Catholic Church has taken hard line stance towards Islam since the death of John Paul II in 2005, supporting diplomacy but not theological discussion. Pope John Paul met with Muslims more than 60 times over the course of his pontificate to build bridges. In May 1999, Pope John Paul II received a delegation of Iraqi Muslims who presented him Islam’s holy book, the Quran. The Pope bowed to the Quran and he kissed it as a sign of respect.

However, as a cardinal in the Holy See, the Pope Benedict was known to be skeptical of his predecessor John Paul II’s pursuit of conversation. One of his earliest decisions as pope was to move Archbishop Michael Fitzgerald, one of the Catholic Church’s leading experts on Islam, and head of its council on inter-religious dialogue, away from the centre of influence in Rome, and send him to Egypt as papal nuncio.

Benedict has spoken publicly of Christianity as the cornerstone of Europe and against the admission of Turkey into the European Council. He had said Turkey should seek its future in an association of Islamic nations, not with the EU, which has Christian roots. However, during his visit to Turkey in November 2006, Benedict softened of his opposition to Turkey’s long-sought membership in the European Union.

According to Marco Politi, the Vatican expert for the Italian daily La Repubblica: “Certainly he closes the door to an idea which was very dear to John Paul II - the idea that Christians, Jews and Muslims have the same God and have to pray together to the same God.” Recently Pope Benedict promoted the old Latin Mass, which contains references to the conversion of the Jews. The Latin mass, largely abandoned after Vatican II, has long been hated by Jews for its emphasis on the Jewish role in turning Jesus over to the Romans for crucifixion and for its call for Jews to come into the church.

 
The letter by 138 Islamic so-called scholars is more of a threat than an invitation for dialogue. They basically said if you don’t do this, that will happen. If they are truly from the religion of peace, they should act like one. Condemn all terrorist activities and distance themselves from the extremist elements. I’m glad B16 is standing firm on this matter with the religion of peace.
 
The problem is, in agreement with some moslems does not means agreement with all moslems.
 
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**Vatican rebuffs Muslim outreach: Quran cited as the main obstacle **

By Abdus Sattar Ghazali

Vatican has rebuffed a massive outreach effort by 138 Muslim religious leaders and scholars who sent a letter to Pope Benedict XVI in an attempt to improve Christian-Muslim relations.

The letter, titled "A…

…{snip}…

…after Vatican II, has long been hated by Jews for its emphasis on the Jewish role in turning Jesus over to the Romans for crucifixion and for its call for Jews to come into the church.

This is the concluding text of the “executive summary”:
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In the Holy Qur’an, God Most High enjoins Muslims to issue the following call to Christians (and Jews—the People of the Scripture):

*Say: O People of the Scripture! Come to a common word between us and you: that we shall worship none but God, and that we shall ascribe no partner unto Him, and that none of us shall take others for lords beside God. And if they turn away, then say: Bear witness that we are they who have surrendered (unto Him). *(*Aal ‘Imran *3:64)

The words: *we shall ascribe no partner unto Him *relate to the Unity of God, and the words: worship none but God, relate to being totally devoted to God. Hence they all relate to the First and Greatest Commandment. According to one of the oldest and mostauthoritative commentaries on the Holy Qur’an the words: that none of us shall take others for lords beside God, mean ‘that none of us should obey the other in disobedience to what God has commanded’. This relates to the Second Commandment because justice and freedom of religion are a crucial part of love of the neighbour.

Thus in obedience to the Holy Qur’an, we as Muslims invite Christians to come together with us on the basis of what is common to us, which is also what is most essential to our faith and practice: the *Two Commandments *of love.

This is the typical “warning”, thinly diguised as a “peace offering”, wherein a moslem must offer a non-moslem the chance to “convert” before the moslem is “allowed” to do whatever would be most effective in forcing the “recalcitrant” non-moslem to convert to mohammedanism.

You, Christians of the world, have been duly offered mercy, and warned that to not accept it will mean your deaths, either spiritual or physical.

That is how the jihadi will see it,… and I’m not interested in any view of this “warning” but that of those pledged to kill me.

Mahalo ke Akua…!
E pili mau na pomaikai ia oe. Aloha nui.
 
This seems directly contradictory to the Zenit reports today. “New Attitude” Noted in Muslim-Christian Relations
A letter sent this month by scholars of Islam to Christian leaders shows that a new attitude is emerging in Muslim-Christian relations, according to an institute for Islamic studies in Rome.

The Pontifical Institute for Arabic and Islamic Studies made this affirmation Thursday in a statement that responds to the letter sent Oct. 11 by 138 Muslim scholars to Benedict XVI and other Christian leaders.
Full article Pontifical Institute’s Response to Muslim Letter
Differences in our languages and in our hues, (ihtilâf alsinati-kum wa alwâni-kum: al-Rûm 30, 22), that is, our deep cultural differences, will be far from engendering suspicion, distrust, contempt and dissension in us, as it often turned out in the history of our relations and still is the case in the world today. Such a document encourages us to pursue our commitment with determination, so that these variations will be seen as signs for those who know, (inna fî dâlika la-âyâtin li-l-'âlimîna), that is, as the mercy of Our Lord.
 
The para before says this:
In conclusion, we wish to insist on the a priori positive attitude of the writers of this text in their interpretation of the three parallel passages in the Synoptic Gospels. They could have chosen a much more restrictive and minimalist exegesis with which the Christian tradition would have provided them without difficulty and of which they were surely aware. Inspired by their attitude, we also would only hold to the maximum interpretation according to which the texts of the Koran and the Prophetic tradition do not only restrict to members of the umma the benefits that any good Muslim may lavish on his neighbour, for the sake of his faith in God and in his exclusive love for him.

In depth analysis:
In conclusion, we wish to insist on the a priori positive attitude of the writers of this text in their interpretation of the three parallel passages in the Synoptic Gospels.
  • accept Christian theology of the resurrection of Jesus Christ instead of lamblasting Christians that they are deluded in this respect.
They could have chosen a much more restrictive and minimalist exegesis with which the Christian tradition would have provided them without difficulty and of which they were surely aware.
  • the Resurrection is a difficult issue of Muslims to confront and accept.
Inspired by their attitude, we also would only hold to the maximum interpretation according to which the texts of the Koran and the Prophetic tradition do not only restrict to members of the umma the benefits that any good Muslim may lavish on his neighbour, for the sake of his faith in God and in his exclusive love for him.
  • give us the same rights as Muslims. Do not restrict the proselytizing of Christianity and church-building as we do not restrict dawaganda and mosque building in Western countries.
Hardly positive.
 
*Say: O People of the Scripture! Come to a common word between us and you: that we shall worship none but God, and that we shall ascribe no partner unto Him, and that none of us shall take others for lords beside God. And if they turn away, then say: Bear witness that we are they who have surrendered (unto Him). *

All I see is the thinly veiled eventual removal of Jesus Christ / Lord from God, and * neither of us * means Christians get the blame for any future “breaches” that may arise.

A ‘primary’ Law student must have written it!

**JESUS CHRIST.

There is no other name under Heaven that can save us. **

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Jesus Christ: the same yesterday, today, and forever.
How can we reconcile that statement from the Bible to what Muslims insist that we do, namely praying to Allah?:confused:
 
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