Vatican says Mass norms must be followed exactly to ensure reverence

[The_Barrister]

***Why issue these instructions? * **

Because there has been a failure of catechesis, of which I am a prime example. For example, after 12 years of schooling and attending Mass I did not know or understand transubstantiation. I “left” the Church in my late teens because I was uninterested in matters of faith, and, to me, the Catholic Church offered nothing I couldn’t get from an hour of watching Ernest Angely (and he was a LOT more entertaining). It was not until my return to the faith 3 years ago that I discovered the truth for myself.

Why now?

There have been two criticisms of the “sudden” interest in enforcing dogma - 1) it was timed to coincide with Kerry’s presidency, and 2) it is insufficient, given 40 years of failed catechesis (how can a priest enforce the norms if the parishioners don’t know the norms?). The first criticism is ludicrous (as if the Vatican is concerned with American politics AND knew, when the groundwork was being laid, that Kerry would be the Dem’s choice). The second criticism is probably valid.

My answer to why now? Why not?

 

[JJJ]

This might be a silly question but why can’t the bishop in a particular diocese ensure liturgical adherence to Mass norms in every parish in the diocese? In my parish, children are encouraged to circle around the alter for the Our Father and hold hands, jazzy music is played, the responsorial psalm is now taped music and never corresponds to the response in the Mass book, special ministers are employed even though Mass attendance is fairly light, jokes are made during the liturgy. What happened? Where is the holiness and sanctity of the Mass? In another parish about a mile away, the Mass is celebrated with utmost holiness, reverence and with tradition. Despite large attendance, Holy Communion is distributed by the priests alone, sermons deal with the hard issues and are very good. Why the discrepancy? Anyone experiencing the same frustration?

 

[Pere_i_Pau]

It is normal that the climax of liberalism has peaked today, however I think some of you are overlooking that the conservative movement in the Church has been growing and is the future, Look at FSSP, they are packed at the seminary. Thank you JPII for them!

The pedophile scandal is a blessing in disguise. No, not a good thing, but a cleansing of the the troublemakers to begin with.

I think we are seeing a change for the better. I say clean house and keep marching.

 

[Marie]

Already the Vatican is weighing in: Good for them. I think…but will the nere do wells listen?

Vatican says wine must be put in chalices before consecration

By Jerry Filteau
Catholic News Service

WASHINGTON (CNS) – Following up on its recent instruction on the Eucharist, the Vatican has ordered a change in U.S. liturgical norms.

It has ordered that any wine to be used for distributing Communion under both kinds be poured into the individual chalices during the preparation of the gifts, before it is consecrated.

It reversed a widespread custom, codified in U.S. norms approved in 2002, that called for distribution of the consecrated wine into the chalices at the time of the breaking of the bread, just before Communion.

Full Text Link:

catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/20040519.htm

 

[Crusader]

milimac:

I attended Mass at a Catholic church in Hawaii that had some of the strangest liturgical innovations I have seen:

• Before Mass began, one of the lay pastoral assistants asked for a volunteer to “preside” at Mass. The woman who volunteered sat in a prominent chair behind the altar, but other than that, did nothing.
• The lectors who both wore stoles both went up to the ambo for the readings. One lady blessed the other before the first reading, and vice versa for the second reading.
• The priest distributed the Eucharist to 2 lines at the same time, 2 by 2.
• The Blood of Christ extraordinary Eucharistic minister said nothing when I approached to receive the Blood of Christ. I wasn’t sure what to do. What would saying “amen” to silence mean? I thought maybe she was distracted or forgot or I just didn’t hear her, but when I sat down I noticed that her lips remained sealed.
• The bread used for the Eucharist was quite tasty. I found out in the bulletin that they make it themselves and they’re hoping someone might be able to get them a good deal on honey.

After I returned home, I did some investigation – I was worried I didn’t attend a Catholic Mass. According to their website, the pastor is being forced to retire, even though there is a shortage of priests in the diocese. The website also says that he supports the ordination of women to the priesthood and has been known to distribute the Eucharist to non-Catholics. I guess that explains the Blood of Christ Eucharistic minister: I must’ve been in the non-Catholic line where hearing “The Blood of Christ” may have been offensive or unsettling to non-believers.

I was hoping to participate in a liturgy that infused Hawaiian culture into the Catholic liturgy in a respectful way. Although they used native Hawaiian instruments and used Hawaiian language in parts of the liturgy, I’m still hoping.

Your posting made my skin crawl. May the Good Lord grant you a wonderful new and orthodox pastor. Dominus Tecum.

 

[GloriaPatri4]

Administrator:

Excerpted from:
catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/20040423.htm​

VATICAN CITY (CNS) – The norms for celebrating Mass must be followed exactly to ensure reverence for the Eucharist and to preserve the unity of the Catholic Church, said a new Vatican document.

“In some places the perpetration of liturgical abuses has become almost habitual, a fact which obviously cannot be allowed and must cease,” said the document, “Redemptionis Sacramentum” (“The Sacrament of Redemption”), written by the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Sacraments.

For balance of article, go to…
catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/20040423.htm​

*Redemptionis Sacramentum *can be found at:
catholic.com/library/redemptionis_sacramentum.asp​

 

[Anathama_Sit]

Almighty Father, I ask and plead with you that all the graces and strengthes may be given to Marybeloved’s father so that he may come in Union with You. I ask that you provide for all of this needs in accordance with Your perfect and holy Will. Amen.