Vatican: Womenpriest ordination results in latae sententiae excommunication

[nobeerinheaven]

It is defined dogma that women may not be priests, whereas the exclusion of married men from ordination is discipline. Women will never be allowed to be ordained in the Catholic Church, because dogma can never change.

This is exactly right, which is why a Catholic in good conscience should not *want *women to be declared ordained - in the end, that desire boils down to a desire that the Holy Spirit no longer guide the Church. Hence the Vatican has declared the issue infallibly and it (according to the CDF) “requires definitive assent…(and) has been set forth infallibly by the ordinary and universal Magisterium.” Likewise, it “is to be held always, everywhere, and by all, as belonging to the deposit of faith.”

One cannot, in good conscience, want them to change their position on priestly ordination any more than want them to change their position on the trinity. They are infallibly resolved doctrines of the faith.

 

[Adonis33]

I don’t think it’s so terrible to hold this opinion, nor to share it on a personal one-to-one basis. What is importance is obedience to what the Church teaches, and so to say it to “us,” to say it at an RCIA class, is :bigyikes: just not right.

I admit that if the Church “changed its mind,” I would be knocking on the seminary’s doors. However, until that time, I remain obedient… I will not join one of these groups and get myself “ordained,” I won’t go to one of their “Masses,” I won’t even go to one of their websites. I don’t want any of their newsletters (which I assume they must have), nor would I want to be on any of their mailing lists. If they hold meetings, and I knew about them, and the meeting was within walking distance of my home, I would not go.

I can’t help the way I feel, however obedience is in the will, and obedience is what the Lord desires.

The Church cannot change it’s mind. The issues has been settled for all time.

vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P4X.HTM

vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_letters/documents/hf_jp-ii_apl_22051994_ordinatio-sacerdotalis_en.html

Wherefore, in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church’s divine constitution itself, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren (cf. Lk 22:32) I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church’s faithful.

The good deacon who holds this opinion might as well wish to sprout wings and fly - both have an equal chance of happening.