Vatican's top liturgical liberal steps down [Allen]

[Catholic_Opinion]

By JOHN L. ALLEN JR.
New York
In a noteworthy change of personnel, if not of surname, the Vatican announced today that Monsignor Guido Marini will replace Archbishop Piero Marini as the pope’s Master of Ceremonies, meaning the official in charge of how the pope celebrates the Mass and the other rites of the church.
The outgoing Marini was long seen as a more permissive counterpart to the strong traditionalism at the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, the Vatican’s policy-setting agency on liturgical matters. Experts have noted the irony that large-scale papal liturgies organized on Marini’s watch are sometimes more innovative than a strict reading of official policy might permit.
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[tiggeriffic]

I read the entire article and the loss of someone like this is a tragedy. He appears to be very well educated great man with a lot to offer.

 

[RomanRevert]

Definately a step in the right direction to tighten up the liturgy and remove innovations that were expressly forbidden in Vatican II. I found this to be an interesting snippet from another article on the same topic:

“Once a private secretary to Archbishop Annibale Bugnini, the chief architect of the liturgical reforms following Vatican II, Archbishop Marini was also a lightning-rod for controversy because of his penchant for liturgical innovation.”

'nuff said…

Here is the whole article:
cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=53856

 

[Contarini]

Either you guys embrace inculturation or you will have trouble convincing other Christians of your claim to be Catholic. Marini as quoted is exactly right–for the 400 years between Trent and Vatican II the “Catholic Church” was in its practical liturgical expressions primarily a sectarian body reflecting the Christianity of Southern Europe.

If you don’t want to have purifying smoke and hula dancing and so on, you should just admit that that whole “embracing all cultures” business is hype and that you are really just as culturally limited as the Anglicans or the Lutherans or the Orthodox (maybe less so than the Orthodox, in fact).

Edwin

 

[stmaria]

By JOHN L. ALLEN JR.
New York
In a noteworthy change of personnel, if not of surname, the Vatican announced today that Monsignor Guido Marini will replace Archbishop Piero Marini as the pope’s Master of Ceremonies, meaning the official in charge of how the pope celebrates the Mass and the other rites of the church.
The outgoing Marini was long seen as a more permissive counterpart to the strong traditionalism at the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, the Vatican’s policy-setting agency on liturgical matters. Experts have noted the irony that large-scale papal liturgies organized on Marini’s watch are sometimes more innovative than a strict reading of official policy might permit.
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This is great news! How does that Bob Dylan song go? " The times they are a changin’ "
From your link:
" Since it is taken for granted in Rome that Benedict XVI will himself celebrate a Mass according to the old rite in St. Peter’s Basilica sometime soon, today’s announcement may have been a way to avoid putting Marini in an awkward position when the times comes. "

 

[Hijikata]

Definately a step in the right direction to tighten up the liturgy and remove innovations that were expressly forbidden in Vatican II. I found this to be an interesting snippet from another article on the same topic:

“Once a private secretary to Archbishop Annibale Bugnini, the chief architect of the liturgical reforms following Vatican II, Archbishop Marini was also a lightning-rod for controversy because of his penchant for liturgical innovation.”

'nuff said…

Here is the whole article:
cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=53856

Agree completely, definitely a step in the right direction. I cannot WAIT until a Papal High Mass!

 

[bpbasilphx]

<<you are really just as culturally limited as the Anglicans or the Lutherans or the Orthodox (maybe less so than the Orthodox, in fact).>>

Before you fling stones at the Orthodox, you should be aware that the Byzantine Liturgy is the world’s only classical rite that is simultaneously international, intercultural, polylingual, AND interconfessional.

 

[Contarini]

Before you fling stones at the Orthodox, you should be aware that the Byzantine Liturgy is the world’s only classical rite that is simultaneously international, intercultural, polylingual, AND interconfessional.

That’s why I said “possibly less so than the Orthodox.” Of course, the Byzantine Rite is “interconfessional” because Catholics use it, so that’s a point in favor of the Catholics!

Edwin