vegetaianism and conversion?

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You who were a non-Catholic in the past and followed another religion (and therefore ate vegetarian food) did you have any problem with the Catholic view on meat eating when you converted?
 
henrikhank said:
You who were a non-Catholic in the past and followed another religion (and therefore ate vegetarian food) did you have any problem with the Catholic view on meat eating when you converted?
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From the time of Saint Paul the apostle this issue has been settled. Before that Jesus also said that eating any type of food could not make you “unclean”. This is not a moral issue.

Further, there are people in certain regions where eating meat is the only option.

If anyone contemplating entering the Church and believes that eating meat is sinful or immorally, that person should probably not become Catholic until the issue is resolved.
 
:confused: It is tradition for Catholics to not eat meat on Fridays (except for fish). The CCC #41, and other places, tells us to respect all of creation. Therefore, it is entirely appropriate for a Catholic to take the discipline another step, into vegetarianism.

No problem.

And, as you see, Catholics are very diverse. 😃
 
Jerusha said:
:confused: It is tradition for Catholics to not eat meat on Fridays (except for fish). The CCC #41, and other places, tells us to respect all of creation. Therefore, it is entirely appropriate for a Catholic to take the discipline another step, into vegetarianism.

No problem.

And, as you see, Catholics are very diverse. 😃
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It’s okay for a Catholic to be a vegetarian, sure. But it’s not okay for one to think that it is a sin to eat meat
 
I used to be on a vegetarian eastern path before returning to Catholicism 5-1/2 years ago. Then I experimented with meats and fish (although I did sneak chicken now and then on the eastern path). Then I just had meat (mostly poultry) as a normal part of my diet for a while except on Fridays when I chose to have fish or go veggie. I would give up meat for Lent, but still have seafood.
Presently, I seem to have come full circle. I simply stopped eating meat and fish. I just don’t want it anymore and I feel better for my choice of being vegetarian. 🤷
But I certainly would not fault my fellow human beings for eating meat and/or fish.
p.s. I guess I’ll have to give up cheese for Lent.😉
 
RosalieM said:
I used to be on a vegetarian eastern path before returning to Catholicism 5-1/2 years ago. Then I experimented with meats and fish (although I did sneak chicken now and then on the eastern path). Then I just had meat (mostly poultry) as a normal part of my diet for a while except on Fridays when I chose to have fish or go veggie. I would give up meat for Lent, but still have seafood.
Presently, I seem to have come full circle. I simply stopped eating meat and fish. I just don’t want it anymore and I feel better for my choice of being vegetarian. 🤷
But I certainly would not fault my fellow human beings for eating meat and/or fish.
p.s. I guess I’ll have to give up cheese for Lent.😉
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Rosalie,

In past times the lenten fasts were pretty severe. No animal products at all. I don’t know your age, but I think it is a bad idea for women to eliminate the calcium intake they get from dairy. During child bearing years they need a store of it to make healthy baby bones. Later they need it to help prevent osteoporosis. Giving up chocolate or all sweets would be a much wiser choice.
 
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Rosalie,

In past times the lenten fasts were pretty severe. No animal products at all. I don’t know your age, but I think it is a bad idea for women to eliminate the calcium intake they get from dairy. During child bearing years they need a store of it to make healthy baby bones. Later they need it to help prevent osteoporosis. Giving up chocolate or all sweets would be a much wiser choice.
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You definitely have a point. I don’t eat many sweets or chocolate so giving those things up wouldn’t be much of a sacrifice.
I could give up all the cheeses that are interesting and delicious and just have plain old cottage cheese. I would still be drinking milk and eating yogurt (the nonfat Greek yogurt which is very thick). And I do take a calcium supplement too.
I read some things about the old lenten fasts…no eggs or dairy at all. Then at the end of Lent there were what we now know as Easter eggs. Also, the “carnivale” meant “farewell to meat” just before Lent began.
 
grandfather said:
Rosalie,

In past times the lenten fasts were pretty severe. No animal products at all. I don’t know your age, but I think it is a bad idea for women to eliminate the calcium intake they get from dairy. During child bearing years they need a store of it to make healthy baby bones. Later they need it to help prevent osteoporosis. Giving up chocolate or all sweets would be a much wiser choice.
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You need calcium of course, but dairy is not the source you want to rely on. The countries that consume the highest amounts of dairy have the highest rates of osteoporosis.

“Native Eskimos have the highest dietary calcium intake of any other people in the world-- above 2000 mg per day from fish bones. Their diet is also the highest in the world in protein- up to 400 g per day primarily from fish (Americans rarely eat quite this much). Native Eskimos have the highest rate of osteoporosis in the world.”

msu.edu/~corcora5/food/vegan/osteo.html
 
henrikhank said:
You who were a non-Catholic in the past and followed another religion (and therefore ate vegetarian food) did you have any problem with the Catholic view on meat eating when you converted?
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I know that some Orthodox monks traditionally ate hardly any meat, except for some fish on Saturday and Sunday. I would imagine that some Eastern Catholic monks probably follow a similar discipline. It’s probably ok to abstain from eating meat so long as you understand that you’re not doing so because eating meat is wrong, but I would defer to a educated Catholic poster on this issue if eating the flesh of animals were somehow an unbreakable tenet of their faith (I don’t think it is, however).
 
You need vitamin D to increase calcium absorption. That is why calcium intake among Inuit doesn’t prevent osteoporosis.
 
henrikhank said:
You who were a non-Catholic in the past and followed another religion (and therefore ate vegetarian food) did you have any problem with the Catholic view on meat eating when you converted?
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Its interesting that the eating of all for food, doesn’t seem to be a problem for the Wise/GOD Religion…except that religions change it to become more aligned with what they believe GOD desires?

For instance, in Brahmanism (the Science of GOD) and all His Laws for Humanity, GOD says only “to think of Him always, even to everything you eat”…give thanks for His sustenance.

Then He says " Anyone who offers me a sacrifice of leaf, flowers, fruit or water, I will accept…"(this is what we may offer to HIm, in prayer and worshipful obedience, at our altars)…

In this some Brahman sects took it to mean a change to their eating habits…ordaining say…we will eat only “prasadam” (foods of these sacrifices, to be eaten, by them, after being offered to GOD as sacrifice), in this they became vegetarians…fairly strictly, except adding some dairy, cheeses, milk and butter…

We must remember though too, that they believe that all living entities, animals, plants, trees, etc.) have spirit souls and Catholics do not believe this…

Do we go against GOD when we eat other living entities? Do we go against the ten commandments when we follow the law “Thou shall not kill”, even though we did not kill it?

GOD says to think on Him, when we do everything in this life, even eating, and made no reference specifically to eating living entities…except do not offer Him these, as sacrifices…

Doctors say eating too much red meat or animal proteins, even eggs, cause dis-ease and internal cancers…

It is tough to be a strict vegetarian, but, GOD is much easier on us, as long as we are devotees to Him, he purifies and liberates us…

Fish is always good on Fridays, Mondays, even Wednesdays!..give thanks to GOD! 👍
 
Jerusha said:
You need vitamin D to increase calcium absorption. That is why calcium intake among Inuit doesn’t prevent osteoporosis.
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I believe the main reason, and the article agrees is actually their high intake of animal protein which is acidic and requires calcium to be leeched from the bones to balance PH. This has been known in western medicine since I believe the 1920’s. Inuit are hardly the only example. See the US and Sweden as well, second and first place dairy consumers, high osteo rates. China/Japan traditionally low dairy and osteo rates (this is changing with their westernizing diets)
 
henrikhank said:
You who were a non-Catholic in the past and followed another religion (and therefore ate vegetarian food) did you have any problem with the Catholic view on meat eating when you converted?
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My parish priest is Vegan.👍
 
RosalieM said:
I really respect vegans. I don’t think I could give up dairy, although eggs don’t agree with me. Tried to Google which saints were vegetarians. Very interesting. 🙂
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Rose,

It has always been my understanding that the Kosher laws were intended to promote the Vegetarian lifestyle.

judaism.about.com/od/kosherdietarylaws/f/stunning.htm
I should add that recent films, study of the issue and a study of health rules for the human being are urging me to consider a far more vegetarian way of life. I already overwhelmingly eat fowl rather than beef. Rabbi Klein notes that perhaps all of these regulations for kashrut were intended to promote a vegetarian lifestyle. He suggests that perhaps God permitted us to eat meat as a concession to our humanity, but that vegetarianism is really God’s first choice.
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CopticChristian said:
I should add that recent films, study of the issue and a study of health rules for the human being are urging me to consider a far more vegetarian way of life. I already overwhelmingly eat fowl rather than beef. Rabbi Klein notes that perhaps all of these regulations for kashrut were intended to promote a vegetarian lifestyle. He suggests that perhaps God permitted us to eat meat as a concession to our humanity, but that vegetarianism is really God’s first choice.

judaism.about.com/od/kosherdietarylaws/f/stunning.htm
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Yes, this reminds me of Genesis 1:29, the first dietary command. “And God said: Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed upon the earth, and all trees that have in themselves seed of their own kind, to be your meat”
 
henrikhank said:
You who were a non-Catholic in the past and followed another religion (and therefore ate vegetarian food) did you have any problem with the Catholic view on meat eating when you converted?
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this question makes no sense whatever. there is no “Catholic view on meat eating.”
 
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