Vegetarian lifestyle

[tambourine]

Hello,
I have been Veggi plus fish, dairy, and eggs for many years now, and I am very happy with that choice. Like one of the other threads on this post I occasionally stray from this out of respect and gratitude. And sometimes when the fried chicken is first rate. lol.

Hello! I’d think I’d be like you. If food is offered to me, I’d take it to be respectful. lol!

I would suggest for anyone who is considering to cut red meat and pork first, and then progress to chicken fish or whatever else you choose to give up. I also match the sentiments of many on this thread who bring up concerns over health. I am not certain about controlling diabetes but that is an interesting question. Also, if you are considering a veggi diet, the most important thing is to DO THE VEGGI THING WELL :

This means research health problems that can come from depriving yourself of nutrients that are primary found in meats such as Vitamin B12 and Iron. And consume regularly a diet with all of the nutrients. It becomes quite a problem at times to get the quantity and quality of calories you need when there is not a first rate veggi cook around.

Blessings

Thank you for your concern, that’s definitely something to research adn be careful about. I’m going to be doing alot of research and finding all the alternatives I can. Thanks again!

 

[tambourine]

Hi,

I’m currently considering going vegan. I have longed to be a vegetarian, and would probably be one by now if my husband wasn’t a meatatarian.

We do primarily buy our meats from local farmers who raise their animals by organic/humane standards, but I feel compelled to go further. I have always struggled with my blood sugars/weight and feel that this may be a positive step to being more healthy.

Also, I am always considered about the environmental impact of meat consumption and of the availability of the food supply worldwide. Being pro-life, I feel that environmentalism is an important component to supporting human life, and to food supply, clean water and other environmental considerations shouldn’t have to be a factor in the Great Debate. Many people make their case for veganism about animals: mine, oddly enough, is about humanity.

haha, I love that: meatatarian!

I wish I at least lived around something like that, I’d feel so more comfortable about it.

I completely agree with you about the enviroment. I know one person can’t make a big impact but that doesn’t mean we should shrug our shoulders and not do anything.

Have a great day!

 

[tambourine]

A lot of what you have a problem with would fall under the umbrella of gluttony. Doing anything in excess is probably not good. It is also possible to go into excess the other way. Have you considered eating only free range or organic meat? Have you ever visited your butchers ranch and seen how the animals are treated? (I used to) Have you considered limiting meat to one meal a day or only as a side item?

I also had a vegetarian spree in High School. Bacon finnaly did that in.

I have actually! A few other people have mentioned it in this thread as well. I’d probably eat the free range and organic meat.
That’s sort of what I do now, try limiting meat and excess. * I’ve never been much of a meat eater anyway, but if my mom cooks a meal with meat i’ll eat it because if I was over a stove cooking for my family, I’d want them to eat it. I can’t expect my mom to cook me a seperate vegan course. Thankfully my mom cooks alot of soups and meatless courses too!
I’ve never seen a butcher ranch, how that like? My dad said he went to a chicken slaughterhouse place, that it wasn’t bad. I know not all slaughterhouses are awful, but there are some and are guilty of stuffing an excessive amount of animals in poor conditions.
Thanks for posting.*

 

[tambourine]

I can’t resist noting that the reason the sparrows were being sold was to be sacrificed in the temple, at the explicit command of God.

God is all knowing, he must know about everything in this world, including the animals.

PETA perpetuates an idea I like to call the “vegan heresy”: that humans are not exceptional among creatures, and that animals are our equals in dignity and value.

I know! Peta has a very dangerous attitude! Not to mention how fanatical they are, have you ever seen that petakills website?

However, I must point out that being vegan does not necessarily mean one subscribes to the vegan heresy. Personal preference, food intolerance, a concern for social justice (among humans), and the desire to practice good stewardship are all acceptable reasons to avoid animal products—although the vegetarian or vegan then has the obligation, under the 5th commandment, to pay close attention to ensuring they receive proper nutrition. (On the other hand, so do meat eaters—even though their nutritional issues are different.)

A few comments I would like to make:

Not eating meat just because others don’t have any would be pointless guilt tripping, unless one offers the sacrifice up to God. Doing so would change the act from pointless to pleasing in the eyes of God. Fasting, whether from all food or only from certain foods, have a long history in the history of the Church, stretching back long before the time of Christ.

Violence toward animals is wrong not because it is an offense against the animals’ dignity, but because it offends against human dignity. Any act that indulges our base appetites for harming others diminishes the collective dignity of the whole human race. We were created for better.

I am a total animal lover—a card-carrying member of the unofficial society of Animal People. The vegan heresy has a certain appeal for all of us in the “club.” It’s important for us to remember the purpose of the creation of animals, and contrast it with the purpose of the creation of humans.

I see what you’re saying and agree with you very very much! You made a good point in making a sacrifice like this for the Lord, you’ve made the vegetarian lifestyle all the more romantic!
Thank you very much for posting, you have a blessed day.

 

[TeresaAnn]

Hi, I’m a veggie just because I don’t really crave meat and love vegetables

BTW I agree, Do the veggie thing well, but even more so…Do the meat thing well. Take a google yourself. Eating too much/wrong kinds cause a lot of health problems.

May we all eat well and prosper

 

[4elise]

Hi, I’m a veggie just because I don’t really crave meat and love vegetables

BTW I agree, Do the veggie thing well, but even more so…Do the meat thing well. Take a google yourself. Eating too much/wrong kinds cause a lot of health problems.

May we all eat well and prosper

Whatever your reasons - or how long you’ve been doing this you may find some resources in our group, Catholic Vegetarians and Vegans here at CAF - Blessings

 

[4elise]

I can’t resist noting that the reason the sparrows were being sold was to be sacrificed in the temple, at the explicit command of God.

PETA perpetuates an idea I like to call the “vegan heresy”: that humans are not exceptional among creatures, and that animals are our equals in dignity and value.

I think here at CAF those of us who are vegetarians and vegans pretty much agree with your assessment of PETA - I’ve yet to see anyone defend their methods or communication.

However, I must point out that being vegan does not necessarily mean one subscribes to the vegan heresy. Personal preference, food intolerance, a concern for social justice (among humans), and the desire to practice good stewardship are all acceptable reasons to avoid animal products—although the vegetarian or vegan then has the obligation, under the 5th commandment, to pay close attention to ensuring they receive proper nutrition. (On the other hand, so do meat eaters—even though their nutritional issues are different.)

A few comments I would like to make:

Not eating meat just because others don’t have any would be pointless guilt tripping, unless one offers the sacrifice up to God. Doing so would change the act from pointless to pleasing in the eyes of God. Fasting, whether from all food or only from certain foods, have a long history in the history of the Church, stretching back long before the time of Christ.

Violence toward animals is wrong not because it is an offense against the animals’ dignity, but because it offends against human dignity. Any act that indulges our base appetites for harming others diminishes the collective dignity of the whole human race. We were created for better.

I am a total animal lover—a card-carrying member of the unofficial society of Animal People. The vegan heresy has a certain appeal for all of us in the “club.” It’s important for us to remember the purpose of the creation of animals, and contrast it with the purpose of the creation of humans.

This is a really well reasoned post - thank you for understanding many of the reasons some of us chose to be vegan - it is the issues of social justice and resources and the environment that first resonated for me and seemed to connect with my expression of my Catholic faith. As I then also learned more about factory farming CAFOs it reinforced the choice - unlike some who make the decision first based on wanting not to harm an animal - I came late to this change, as my daughter shared more of her reasons it just made sense to me more and more - so little by little (fish was the last thing to go for me) over several years I went vegan - it has been a good choice for me.

Sometimes I have the opportunity to pass up cake that I would like to have, (containing dairy and eggs) and then can offer that up too - Peace

 

[royal_archer]

I think here at CAF those of us who are vegetarians and vegans pretty much agree with your assessment of PETA - I’ve yet to see anyone defend their methods or communication.

Actually I did like the Got Beer campaign which spoofed the Got Milk campaign.